So the old Combistick is OP, Again....

#1

Since the charged plasma shot got nerfed it basically made a ranged scout class impossible to use, so I switch to a melee based Beserker and low and behold it just dominates teams so easily.

I just run in with combistick and start swinging. If they try and parry just attack them from the side or blind them with combistick toss, then clean up with melee arm dagger attacks.

I take the perk that gives extra melee damage and reduces bullet damage.

I don’t usually have to bother with the netgun or the bear traps because most people can’t even handle the combistick.

At the very least the plasma cannon actually takes skill to land a direct hit while the combistick is very newbie friendly. I don’t expect any PS4 players to have a good time.

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#2

Thank you! If you get parried there are other options like the stick throw and leap, parry never needed a nerf ( not that it was a big enough one to matter ) people just needed to realize " oh hey… cant just wack away… game broke… scream nerf on forum"

The predator didnt need a buff outside of being able to find pigs.

That sucks for the scout though; i tend to use the bow for harassment throughout the game till they run low on supplies anyways so the plasma nerfs sucks but doesnt really bother me too much.

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#3

The problem is by doing this you are actually contributing to the problem. I won’t run berserker and combi for the sake that I don’t want an easy win if it’s ‘that’ OP. What’s the point. If you are a competent Pred player, why not challenge yourself and try to win without that meta. That’s what I do.

Give me the tools to have a fair fight without exploiting broken mechanics and I will choose that option every time.

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#4

I do believe the Pred needed a buff as you shouldn’t have to be a professional Pred player or exploit broken mechanics just to see the Pred win games. Clearly the majority of players were struggling as the Predator so something needed addressed. Ignorance and saying ‘git gud’ is a sure fire way of killing the game. You need to adhere to the masses

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#5

I’m running Berserker Club now. Taking some scalps

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#6

I mean agree to disagree? I think allot of people got into the mindset of doing one thing, and when it didnt work they got mad. I get thematically parrying a predator doesnt make much sense, but its a game and there needs to be a counter to melee rushing.

Also this has to be one of the most lenient parry timings iv ever seen in a video game, it isnt hard at all and even spamming melee will give you a parry or two which should be enough to kill the pred assuming the fire team is all shooting at him.

I think the pred SHOULD be underpowered when fighting 1v4 and the point would be to wittle them down till the tide turns in your favor. 1v4 should be hard, 1v3 should be even, 1v2 should basically be your game.

I apologize if i came off ignorant or something, prolly a by product of the whole community acting the way they have for the past week, so sorry for that.

Again, you are welcome to your opinion, i just personally disagree with it.

#7

I don’t think you should be able to rush into a full squad and win hands down. That’s why in my first post I say that i avoid the berserker combi meta… but I can understand why many would do it. When the skill gap and bar is set too high, the lesser skilled players will be forced in order to have a chance. Punish lesser skilled players too much and they will stop playing. This would kill the game for the rest of us due to queue times. Simply nobody would be playing. You need lesser skilled players that still have fun. Not everybody can be fantastic, even with excessive hours dedicated. Games need the casual gamers to jump in and have fun as well.

I personally run hunter class, no combi, and still win a lot of games. Without blowing my own trumpet, I’d say I have my strats pretty on point and would be of higher Pred skill than a lot of players. Even still, I could see the balancing was still off and if there was 3, or even 2 out of 4 similar skill level to myself playing as FT - the odds are really not stacked in your favour without the berserker/combi meta. It’s as simple as that.

In short - no you should not be able to rush in and take all 4, but the Pred should not have to resort to only 1 combination to win. I would think to anybody that highlights an inbalance to the game.

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#8

Apparently the same was done to the plasma caster, shots can be avoided if people know what they are doing.

#9

I think the only two things worth running are rhe combi/bow and combi/net gun. So i agree with that statement yes.

However i dont think i necessaryly agree with catering to the low skilled players.

Fighting games have been catering to the casual masses for nearly a decade now and it has not helped to keep a playerbase. Players will keep playing as long as something is “cool” or because of the “characters” and that shows in spades with smash bros because they just throw everything at that game, so many characters and maps and everything. Catering to the casual audience has never been shown to directly correlate with a steady playerbase, that im aware of anyways.

If we ignore the bugs and glitches in this game, the idea is great and should be enough for casuals to keep playing. Theres allot of things this game could have to appeal to a casual audience but just isnt.

The game should also have a solo mode for low skill players to play pred the way they want.

Also the casuals will eventually leave anyways so why not balance around the players that play this game well, considering they are the ones that will stay playing once everyone else leaves.

The tutorial is abismal at teaching how to play the pred effectively; pred does have a learning curve, and the way they teach it should be much more in depth.

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#10

I get what you are saying 100% but I think this game is targeting an audience that can jump in and have a casual fun gaming experience. There isn’t much progression or replayability so to a lot of people see it as a game to look to when bored and have some fun. That’s what will bring people back I reckon. The more hardcore players will be around for the hunt, the survival, or just because they love the predator < – me!

Casual gamers will bump the player base so you might have 1 or 2 casual people coming in with 2 or 3 hardcore players during matchmaking. Keeps the queue times low’ish.

What I fear is if the game isn’t fun to those players, they will hop onto CoD, DBD, a battle Royale, something else which will give them that fun buzz instead. That’s my thoughts anyway.

I play Pred a lot and use every little thing to my advantage. Not everyone will though. They will go berserker and combi and it creates an endless loop of FT mains saying it’s broken, Pred mains saying they are forced into it, and Illfonic in a position where no matter what they do they can’t win.

Personally i think they released the game too early. Needed more beta testing and time to get the formula right. Now every change will upset and be scrutinized.

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#11

Ugh, no.

I’ve only experimented with this today and even if I stop, there will be a ton of other predators that do this.

It’s illfonic’s problem to fix.

#12

It might be and thats fine, but as it is right now it doesnt feel like. It feels somewhere stuck between trying to be casual and competitive, i dont know how they’d dix that so i wont even speculate.

I heard there was gonna be a big content update in a month or so, dont know how true that was; havnt gone to look it up.

Yeah im totally gonna be here for a long time no matter what happens, the game is too damn fun for me and cant wait to see how the game ends up months from now.

I agree, i think game needed a minimum of 6 more months but i would have wanted a full yesr delay; the game serious lacks content and once at lvl 100 there isnt much else going on. We need like every predator in existence as skins/classes at some point in time, the fire team needs more skins and classes ( i honestly think the fireteam needs a full rework but thats just me ) i wish we had characters from the movies to look like.

The whole game needs so much more customization items and upgrades, and an unlock to the lvl cap, or a prestige system of some kind.

Hopefully this game gets some massive updates in the future, cuz i aint going anywhere.

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#13

This is a post I made about all the weapons in the game. But mostly pred weapons. If you guys can add to the discussion please do. I touch on pretty much everything. Just read the replies too because alot of points were already argued.

#14

Stick together, aim well, and parry. Not even Berserker with Impenetrable can handle all four FT members unloading their clips into it at once. I’ve overcome multiple Combi Berserkers and ran into teams that overcame a blind rush-in tactic by doing this. We shouldn’t nerf things because players are too stupid to group up.

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#15

I really dont understand why people think the combistick is op…
the sword litterly has the highest dmgoutput

#16

contributing too the problem? you mean like being spam spotted in the trees and forced to run being shot at because your plasma caster ran out of energy after getting direct charged hits and unable to down anyone … yeah. this is why people are zerging their way in.

#17

That “metagame” from illfonic

True Predator (Scout) is weak.
Fake slasher maniac with spear (Berserk) is op.

“Good job”

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#18

Scout is unplayable?
What?
Are you kidding me?

Im literally running On top of FT, barraging them with arrows, caster aoe and sporadic claw scratch here and there and the juicy leap slam.

Scout received a buff that patch, bow got buffed too, survivability of preds jumped through the roof with unlimited pigs to eat (im considering dropping heal for traps or something else for my scout) .

I think I need to record some of my games as a proof you dont have to be a mindless melee combistick user nor had to abuse old 1 hit down caster (it was cheesy af).

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#19

Yes and I agree, changes were and potentially still are needed. That’s why I said i understand why people play this way. However, using something that is also widely accepted as a broken mechanic doesn’t mean it’s ok. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Illfonic need to figure out a compromise.

Neither Predator nor FT should have meta’s that break the game for the other team. The FT needed the Nerf. The combi potentially did, I can’t really comment as I avoided using due to the backlash on here.

#20

Yes, please record it, because i have a simular playstyle and that results in them leaving in the chopper, everytime. Unless they are randoms who have trouble aiming.

I can hit them over and over, but the amount of cooldown the pred has with healing etc, they just rush towards the objective.

So please, show us recordings of you successfully use THAT tactic against a decent FT.

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