Soooo….how does one git gud at PS5 fireteam?

They are absolute trash. I can’t tell you how many loadouts I have with them. I might have one with thick skin and three, at best, with owlf training. Survivability doesn’t mean shit if you aren’t doing damage. There are other ways to survive besides throwing that crap on.

Those two perks, especially together, only serve to waste your perk points and make you have a false sense of security. Playing as a scout duelist without any of that shit makes you get inherently better at the game by force though, I suppose. If you’re a slow fuck with potato aim, it’s probably not a bad idea to have one of them on you. Otherwise, nah. I’m good.

Bro you do so much damage with the specializations alone. Load the game up me and my friend will run thick skin OWLF builds and show you how aids it is

I’ve ran four games using the advised 2025 build with thick skin, owlf and fast hands, and I’ve been melting Preds like never before lol. And the health increase DOES help; last match I had a Hunter spamming arrows right into me and I just unloaded into him. Idiot didn’t move, so he was second winded in an instant, and I still had 20hp left. I might try your suggestion next, but tbh I’d rather be able to survive a Pred assault than twiddle my thumbs after being downed in a heartbeat, hoping my teammates aren’t absolute potatoes and will revive me.

Also, as a console player I do kinda have potato aim, sooo…

We’re gonna do some quick tests rn to show you the numbers on why these are so bonkers

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Also to your point of quick release and fast hands. Those are not adding to your dps lol. You have plenty of time to reload between engagements with the predator

Without those perks you woulda been downed lol. Trust me. They are very very powerful

Ohhhh, in seconds. I’ve had plasma spammers, charging zerkers and traps used on me in the last hour, and I’ve survived them all. Lost only one match out of five so far, and I’m doing the highest or second highest Pred dmg per match. Still need to work on my aim and sensitivity though.

So with these perks, on assault, you are taking 1 more melee hit from sickle and wrist blades. Which is a big deal! Because when you take 6 hits instead of 5, you’re making him finish and restart his combo. Then, a full charged plasma shot without these perks leaves you at 12 health. With these perks, you have 49! Meaning you still need to be hit with melee 2 more times, or take another charge shot to kill! These perks are keeping you alive substantially longer. Instead of being 1 comboed or 1 shot with plamsa, you’re tanking through those. That’s massive.

Unless you’re getting disc’d by a elder stalker, like I had last match. I got reinforced and we downed him, but jeeeesus these perks don’t protect against that kind of bs

61 rounds from the AUG with deadly and Bane to kill a hunter with impen, and only 45 rounds to kill when the predator doesn’t have impen. HUGE difference. This makes your predator go from being able to literally get 1 clipped, to making someone reload and use half another mag. Perks that increase your health pool are just so strong

And 26 rounds from melee range without impen lol. Like you just destroy players who dare attempt to play the game without impen

I’ve literally downed (as in downed, not second winded) a Predator almost by myself on Assault deadly with that build. Don’t rely on padding your health and defense and play smart. You don’t need those garbage perks.

The best build in the game is assault fanatic with the sawz though. If you have eagle eyed aim, most Predators will learn to fear you. I have a few friends who play like that and it’s scary how they can basically solo most Preds.

Well if there should be any weapon that pretty much insta kills it should be disc as it’s one of the only skill weapons in the entire game

Sniper is a masochistic playstyle

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Bro. EVERYONE has solo downed predators with assault deadly hahaha I just told you the numbers! I’m telling you how much damage you can do, and with these perks you have more survivability to DO that damage!

They don’t protect thick skin support either. If the disc is recalled on impact, you’re dead even if you’re made of solid rock.

Then load the game up and play. We will literally show you why this is bonkers

Having played scout duelist for so long, that padded health doesn’t mean shit to me, in all honesty. I’ve been playing the game as a glass canon. I’d rather make the Predator hurt a little more a little faster than survive maybe one more arrow.

Then you’re getting 1 tapped. Objectively a bad build

You aren’t hurting more of faster with your build tho! Those perks don’t add dps like what are you talking about