Spotting/Parry Needs to be reworked

If anything I want more melee options, a machete, a katana, hell give me a folding trench shovel. I want some variety.

Still haven’t seen a 1v1 melee where the Predator lost. Parry isn’t a sure thing and the knife has the worse hit detection than any of the Pred weapons.
Remove the ability to attack… like at all? So you parry and get stunned too or you can only run away?

I personally prefer to shoot a Pred after Parry rather than stab them, as it works better to push them off.

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I see them everyday whenever Pred is dumb enough to rush me. Parry, shoot, Parry, Stab, second wind, shoot more and downed before he can leave the area, reload, shoot, defuse, AI swarm, OWLF meeting, Miller time😊

Yeah. You just keep Parrying unit backup arrives…or the Pred has no Stamina left and is toast. If you’re LMS then you can attack during parry.

Honestly as a mechanic I do think parry should stay. I also think the ability to counter attack should stay. What baffles me is why the knife damage is so crazy high. The way the play styles in this game have evolved lead me to believe it wasn’t play tested much 🤔

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They don’t get credit for it because this game has the most poorly thought out melee system in anything ever and half of preds weapons are considered a troll loadout because of it. Game has no concept of sidegrades or niches, everythings just outright better than something else - even the classes. They tried for a niche once with the joke bleed DoT on katana but were too afraid to make the status effect any good, meanwhile elder sword tracks well enough to kill netted people so whats the point.

As for melee, Why would heavy attacks have parry frames? Why is it a 1:1 counter to every string in the preds combo instead of a block? Why do knives do shotgun tier rapid fire damage? What exactly is the point of combos if they just get parried? Wtf is all this risk for shitty single target damage? Why would you put a parry mechanic in a game without an ability to counter it as if people wouldnt just fish for parries? Its rock, paper, but no scissors. The correct answer is not play rock (putting yourself at needless risk of paper for shit reward) and instead just use the plasma caster. Its like if For Honor was just guardbreaks and people were like “Well look you can still win a fight using the slowest heavy attacks in the game sometimes!” and in the meantime everywhere else just becomes a turtling staring contest waiting for the other person to attack so you can counter it and kill them at minimal risk to yourself.
It’s just awful on a conceptual level or melee overall has to be some kind of rush job.

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Parry, get a shot of with a 2XL or shotgun, parry, rinse n repeat and watch that Predator health bar evaporated…seems legit🙄

I took a preds mask in a parry battle with my 1st shotgun. Was super satisfied 2 parries, 2 head shots = no mask.
Also had the bane on idk if that makes a difference

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Says the person who’s still commenting after 2 days. Shut the fuck up and get a life and stop jerking yourself off in this thread.

I’d answer all your questions if you wanted but it isn’t really necessary. It’s simple because this isn’t a melee only game. The intent of Parry is to cause a delay, that’s all it is. A simple mechanic to prevent a Pred from just pushing through the whole team one after another.

PHG isn’t trying to be For Honour, at least not right now it isn’t, can’t say it won’t ever have mechanics inspired by For Honour because I think it’s likely that melee will be expanded on, when we have Pred vs Pred.

Is it the best system, no but it does add to the push and push off they are going for. I would prefer a different system myself but that doesn’t mean I can’t recognize why they made certain choices. Parry being the main one. So let me ask you a question…

What happens if Parry is just removed?

Git gud

Imagine being this salty over a video game thread and wasn’t even responding to you or even comeing at you lol. Man if there was a competition for the saltiest place on the planet. The dead seas would be runner up to you. Lol im sorry salt bae. Need some vinegar for those wounds. Poor wittle baby

Pred vs pred? That would ruin this game even more so. Smhh they need to stay away from the shit lore of preds fighting there own kind

The games going to evolve and change. Bad Bloods will be added at some point, they’ll hunt regular Pred’s or they’re not really Bad Bloods.

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I dont think so. Thats to much for this third rate company to pull off.

Evolve said the same thing and look what happened there. This game needs to stay simple. Pred vs ft action. More preds vs more ft hell yeah but pred on pred I dont see it. They would have to charge for that and no body will buy that.

Pred v Pred mode would kill QuickPlay. Nobody would want to play FT much, but I suppose at least we’d all get a good chance at playing as Predator.

I doubt it’ll be exclusive Pred v Pred, they’ll make it so some FT element is necessary.

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That right there.

Why would they charge for a mode? They’ve already stated new modes and maps will be free. This will likely be the case for all but one exception I can think of.

Look, I’m not annoyed at you in particular but I am annoyed. The game is going to add things over its life time, it’s a service game. If they ever do get into trouble, odds are they will add aliens (Xeno’s) in some form or fashion maybe as a payed Dlc expansion (this is the exception I can imagine) that is more expensive than a regular Dlc but then they’ll likely be playable. If they aren’t playable, I doubt they would garner the sales and so might be just an unpaid expansion.

I don’t think we will get all the characters simply because the likeness rights would be too expensive. I do think we will get at least a couple more are in our future, as to which ones I don’t know.
I don’t think paid human characters and Pred’s are the only thing they can or will be sold as Dlc. Unfortunately the game needs more mechanics, modes and a progression system before any guessing as to what form it will take.

There’s so much that they are likely working on that we just don’t know. Hell I’m still waiting to find out if we’re going to have events, they are an important part in breaking up any tedium that builds in your player base. They don’t even need to be that well constructed, look at Dbd’s, they’re barebones additions that add little but grind. They do get people grinding though and they provide the ability to choose interesting activities during a match for a short time. That’s the part they do best by the way, the fact that they’re events don’t force you to do them, they’re optional bonus objectives.

The balance will be different in 6 months, the number of assets they have to build maps will grow, new layers will be added to the experience. Hopefully a more fleshed out progression system will exist by then. It’s going to be a long slow climb though.

Last thing, about game sales. The game will have bursts of new players, whether because of events or special sale prices. Either one is good, Dbd has spent years having sales and giving their game away because at certain points having active players was more important than game sale. At this point they can recoup the money via Dlc over a few months. They’ve done an excellent job overall, learning to lean one income source on another. It took years to gather enough characters and dlc that people would have enough options to recoup the cost off of though. PHG will get there, it’s going to take time.

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Pred vs Pred might kill hunt mode but it would be worth it imho

It would be a completely unique game at that point

They would have to charge for because it would be a completely new game not a new mode. The mechanics would have a drastic rework. Completely new animations other than just minor ones for new weapons. This would require a block animation a parry animation. Clashs most definitely. Normal attacks and heavy attacks for all weapons. A different targeting system. Completely new balance changes that would alter the entire game if in your words a new game mode is added that is pred vs pred. New death animations and claim animations for the dead pred and the wining pred. All this takes massive amounts of money and time. Time is something this game does not have. Plz turn off your fan boi brain and think logically for a change. You are asking for too much from this game. New modes and maps will be slightly altered game modes additions of more preds vs more ft players that is it. You want to much.

I see even more possibilities I didn’t list. I think the next year will be taken up by following whatever schedule they have set up. Night maps and filling out the Pred roster. After that though there’s no telling what they will focus on.
I expect very small changes, but every once in a while it will be something bigger, like a new map type. The first 5 month have been rough and a bit of a scramble but that is likely because of the things they are working on that we aren’t aware of.

My expectations aren’t like yours, I’m not going to start raging on the devs because they can’t meet my schedule.

This game is dying faster than you can even imagine. I will be willing to bet money on the 600k ppl that bought this game only 2 thousand of them even own it anymore. And of that 2 thousand I will say only 1300 of them play daily. And of that 1300 I will say only 900 of them ply more than a hour.

The fan service here is so lack luster that this game will sit right Next the 2018 The Predator as one of the worst Predator IPs ever made

You are entitled to that option. I think they have every chance to be as successful as Dbd has been. This genre is in a tough spot overall, they’re aren’t many options. Only one of them is considered to be a major success.

Predator is on par with RE-Resistance or Hunt: Showdown right now, I personally like this game better and so spend more of my time here (in the jungle). It isn’t any more dead than they are from what I can see. They’re all just trying to be the next one up the mountain and it’s a struggle.

You are letting you bias cloud how you see it far more than I am, imo.