Suggestion for nerfs regarding fireteam reinforcements and downs

Not all PC players are amazing. I’ve managed to kill teams with PC players. Sometimes, the PS4 players put up more of a fight than their PC teammates.

PC players that cheat and adjust their graphic settings so they can see the predator more clearly are kinda annoying to deal with though.

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You do realize that would balance the game in the FT’s favour as they’re the majority? Just messing with you. (I like the house rules suggestion, very good.)

To the OP
The cost of nerfing the FT or buffing the Pred, will be longer wait times. Players will end up migrating to other games if it slips to much in the Predators favour.

Let’s say it a different way, the Pred mains need the FT players but those players can easily get a similar experience in dozens of other games that don’t feel like they’re balanced for the minority of the players in a match.
You should focus your energy on imagining new things not trying to remove stuff. With each cut you sacrifice a part of the player base.

PS. If you come back with less health and your a low health class, your one shot for most weapons, so no as someone who plays Scout I would not find this fair or balanced, same with the reduced gear, I’d come back with one heal, great.

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NM, you were messing with me lol. I am guilty of being gotted!

The could add a ton of more options into the Private matches also to help with the house rules.

I got you, and I’m reasonably certain that plays a factor in any changes they make. Each side needs to win sometimes, it can’t be total domination for either side.

The Pred mains who claim to win most of their matches, if true, are actually hurting themselves in the long run as it means Pred nerfs, especially if they’re all wiping teams using a meta.

Off topic but related kinda, the prequel novel has Dutch using an arm mounted Plasma Caster, can’t wait to have if in game if it was a tease. (And the threads begging illfonic to take it back.)

Reduced gear by one after redeployed. Anything else would be too imbalanced.

From what I understand, the reinforcements are not meant to the the same players brought back

They are brand new people, fresh off the chopper.

It would be nice if they could pluck actual new players from the queue instead of re-spawning players already in the match. I am betting this would not be possible though due to technical and logistical limitations.

I think you’re right about the Stealth kill, it’s a cool idea but it’s implementation is maybe not the best it could be.

A cut scene for the victim and a quick animation for the Predator would be interesting. Maybe the Predator could see the cut scene after the match as a way of reliving the experience, skip it or watch it. (Think this would be cool for long claims too)

Edit - As for coming back, I’d like to come back as a different preset, that way I can have a different load out or Character model.

Second edit - I so want a high light reel at the end of the match now. Just transition from one long kill to the next, with stealth kills sprinkled through out.

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If not health or gear then how about reduced ammo? Something should be reduced when they get reinforced. I don’t see this as a huge nerf, if anything I see this as moving the game into a more balanced state which would increase the player base.

Maybe a new gear item or weapon could be added for the predator that prevents a fireteam member from being reinforced. How about the blue liquid from the AVPR movie.

Yeah, I see what you mean about the health with characters like the Scout. The system I’m talking about would probably work better if all fireteam members had the same health. Also, if you already used up your healing items prior to getting reinforced, it seems a bit unfair for you to come back with all your heals. If you hadn’t used any of your heals, then it would make sense for you to come back with them.

Not so much hurting themselves as giving accurate data in regards to state of the game balance, I would think.

The only things I’d honestly change is that they’re dropped in by Helicopter. The Predator would no long get an instant warning about the call but could detect it with isolation scan. Essentially the Predator would need to figure out where the Heli is going and beat it there. I’d also let them drop even if the fourth/caller was killed before they landed. (The caller would not reinforce.)

You’d have a different FT character with new gear. You’d repel in and the mission would continue.

I still think overall the predator is too strong for the fireteam.

However, one reason I think reduced gear by one and ammo by half is not a bad idea, because I’ve killed my self just to replenish my gear upon reinforcement. That shouldn’t be incentivized.

The predator is only strong against a noob fireteam.

Exactly, there are probably other fireteam players that take advantage of the reinforcement system like that too.

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not gonna lie most games I worry way more about fighting the pc demi gods than the ps4 mortals nothing against PS4 folk

i mean u literally get a full restart resource wise from getting revived… it’s a very lethal strategy when u are fighting a full Pc team… even being as good as a Pred that I am and rarely dying, PC teams are pretty much like Kratos vs The Stranger lol and if there’s a PS4 person in the match, both will use em as bait… I’ve seen so many pc teams try to lure me in with the PS4 players lol

This is based on my personal experience.
Predator is:

  • strong vs inexperienced team (6-7 kills).
  • even vs an experienced team (4-5 kills but often at least one escapes).
  • weak vs a veteran team (1-2 kills and fights just to survive).
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Then again I never allow humans to call in their Star Trek plot power as much as possible >;) Letting humans come back to life is borderline heretical territory I dare not entertain too extensively
The Lore Pred

LORE wise, its reinforcements, not reanimation.

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unless I identify them as being different on a genetic lvl from their Star Trek teleport in, it’s still heresy… IN FACT them using the same equipment and uniform as the person who died demands heretical purging >;)
Lore Pred

Just turn off crossplay because they’re never going to balance this game properly given that its multiplatform AND has crossplay.

Console players simple can’t compete with PC players and that shall remain a fact until they start supporting mouse and keyboard. They could nerf the Fire Team into oblivion and you PS4 Preds would still find something to whine about because you’re struggling with PC opponents.

Just be patient. I am one of the few PC players left. I assure you. Just give it a couple of more weeks and you won’t see any PC players in your lobbies. Heh. If any players at all with the way they’ve handled things so far.

I wouldn’t mind it being destructible if the fireteams were too