The Original

[Eshtion]

@DisturbedLlama

You keep taking stuff out of context and putting it together to try and make me look dumb.

No I’m not.

Please go ahead and point out a time I did this.

Back up your claim.

@DisturbedLlama

You think, making the predator more dangerous wont in turn make him more of a threat

Scary

Scary

Scary

Scary

Threat =/= scary

@DisturbedLlama

but can’t understand why we want a middle ground where instead of 1 ultra powerful tool. We want all his tools to just be viable

Again

No I don’t.

We’re talking about him being scary

That’s not scary

Now yes you don’t actually mean scary

But that’s on you for bad communication because your example was literal fear.

@DisturbedLlama

To add some, I don’t know, variety and interest to playing the predator?

Jesus now your taking me out if context. Know what I’ll provide an example.

@DisturbedLlama

@DisturbedLlama

The issue is the lack of viability with every single other weapon in the game.

The predator having a variety of options doesn’t make it scary.

I never said it’s be bad I said it’s not scary

In fact,

@Eshtion

It’s a poorly designed shooter which it shouldn’t be but what’s wrong with a shooter just being a shooter?

There’s me agreeing that the game is poorly designed.

@DisturbedLlama

It’s already nothing but pc and if we reverted that change, it would be even MORE so.

I said one shot plasma was fine, I didn’t say everything else didn’t need to be buffed.

@DisturbedLlama

And again I’m communicating just fine

Then please tell me how an example about literal fear doesn’t mean actual fear.

I’ve been asking for that a while now.

@DisturbedLlama

you’re trying to like, pry everything I say apart by taking things out of context and altering the meaning of what I’m saying in some weird attempt to be right. Stop it lol

Example for your claim?

And a detailed one I want quotes of what I quoted, what the entire context should of been, and how me taking that context out affected the conversation.

@DisturbedLlama

Then tried explaining how it’s just an action game. Ok cool, what’s that have to do with it being bad? Like the numbers have vastly depleted.

Your example was that of providing genuine fear.

You didn’t mean genuine fear.

Ya of course I’m going to think you mean something different.

Those soldiers were scared for they’re lives, that’s not what you want and you used a bad example.

@DisturbedLlama

Dude we’re done talking here

Alright fine

[DisturbedLlama]

You actually said this multiple times. That old plasma was better lol. And you are doing it right here. Taking a single sentence out without reading the context of what’s around it. And yes?? You literally prove me right in your own points hahaha yikes. Threat=scary. DUH. That’s literally what I’m saying. Lordy you’re thick

[DisturbedLlama]

Again. My examples are spot on. You just have a “being right boner” lol. Literally everyone knows exactly what I mean

[DisturbedLlama]

Tell ya what. You’ve always been really cool. I do apologize for not being very nice here. That’s on me, and I’m sorry. I just feel you are purposefully trying to make my points something they are not. But none the less, sorry for not being nice about it

[JungleHound]

It is and it’s wrong. because unlike a regular PvP shooter, this is a 4 vs 1 scenario and on top of that, the two sides are using completely different types of projectiles.

[JungleHound]

yeah it cannot simulate the feeling of the 1st movie simply because humans in this game are prepared to engage with predators having even reverse engineered their tech.

And this is why it doesnt work as a regular shooter.
You can’t have 4 vs 1, if the predator player has no technological advantage over the FT, other than going invisible (which with so many indications is useless) and being able to leap high and far.

Gadgets aside (both sides have similar sensors & decoys), it’s literally 4 people with advanced weapons, against 1 person with primitive weapons (with the only exception being the plasma cannon and pistol).

[JungleHound]

I ve been thinking about this.
how this game cannot recreate the feeling of the 1st movie, and its mainly due to two reasons.

1. The players know what this game is about. They cannot be surprised by an “unknown” enemy like what we see Dutch’s team experience in the movie and
2. In this timeline humans have known about the Predators for decades and have reverse engineered their tech and have basically declared war between species.

The only way to have an authentic predator experience (which is impossible imo) is if different video game companies secretely organized special events, where on completely random moments players could play as the predator in other franchises.
So basically imagine playing a mission on Battlefield and as you re doing a mission a predator starts attacking you.

But even that wouldn’t be close to experiencing the 1st movie, cause people would recognize the character and laugh about it, rather than feeling scared.

And after it happened once then everyone in that franchise would be ready for that so it would totally lose the element of surprise…

[Thunder-Cats]

Its very easy to make this Game feel like the movies!

Change the time limit to 10 mins!

Obj must be done and then after the 10 mins are up the chopper location is marked and you have a extra 1min30 to get to the chopper before it leaves!

Sure this might induce camping by the ft after the mission is done but it also on the 3 other maps other than the cave of hell map (seriously who thought a huge cave was a good idea)

This would change the flow of the game drastically due to the Predator’s ability to now apply pressure while staying “hidden” and safe at first to pick and prod the ft while they do the mission! Then after the Mission is finished its like the “movie” the Ft are just trying to survive till the time is up!!

Sure you can still hunt the Predator and kill it and win but now the Predator has options due to the mission and the timer to be run out before chopper shows up!

[JungleHound]

Those 2 extra minutes will be felt in the waiting queue though.

[Thunder-Cats]

Ill be fine with that!

[Eshtion]

That’s not because it’s an action game though, that’s just poor game design.

[Finessology]

@JungleHound

Gadgets aside (both sides have similar sensors & decoys), it’s literally 4 people with advanced weapons, against 1 person with primitive weapons (with the only exception being the plasma cannon and pistol).

And the plasma is still slower than bullets.

This is like wizardry vs guns.

Pred is ultimately just chucking sticks at the end of the day its an ambush hunter. once you know what you’re up against and they start getting hit its just a big guy in a tree.

[Finessology]

@JungleHound

The only way to have an authentic predator experience (which is impossible imo) is if different video game companies secretely organized special events, where on completely random moments players could play as the predator in other franchises.

Doesnt need to be a surprise people need to actually worry about dying instead of just staring at their health bar and poping a syringe the second they dip below a low threshhold.

You end up more worried about health micro management than the pred.
There are so many second chances that you’re just counting remaining heals.

Hunt:Showdown is a better pred game thematically lol. Even though you know there are players lurking somewhere its still a surprise when you walk into someones barb wire trap molotov house of horrors SAW movie. A well-equipped solo player can home-alone a group of three players and that’s a constant threat. This is why people play stealthy in Hunt instead of making themselves easy targets, that and they lose that specific character and his RNG perks if he dies. You have to introduce risk management if you want people to care about stealth but its still perfectly viable to create an authentic stealth experience in a multiplayer game.

Pred is just counting and trading health.