The Predator was a SOCIALIST

Again, there’s a difference between socialist countries and countries which use parts of it.

Look at Australia, New Zealand, France, U.K etc. No comparison.

Ya mean where people are arrested for social media posts and not wearing masks?

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Well they’re completely different issues so I’m not sure how they connect?

But yeah, we do take mask wearing very seriously here if it’s needed (which changes depending on what’s happening and what type of work you’re doing) . But it also works. Our national new daily cases are in the single digits.

Social programs are not economic socialism, until you start handing things out for free which inevitably causes social collapse once the country is big enough because the money has to come from somewhere to sustain it.

You wouldn’t say UK, France, New Zealand etc are socialist countries. They don’t have socialist parties.

That’s my point though.
Although, sometimes things are handed out for free. For example: if you’re unemployed, you’re exempt from paying the Medicare levy but you still receive the benefits (like sometimes paying nothing for going to hospital).

Being taxed out the ass isn’t free healthcare unfortunately. Same reason you have to buy into insurance or social security to recieve the benefits of it. And even then stuff like the VA is completely dysfunctional because all the decent doctors want to work at a private clinic for good pay, the best equipment, & less regulations. You just have a mandatory government insurance under your private insurance now draining funds for a system purely for people that spend more money than they make annually that the average person can make no use of, which is why people don’t like it.

Government inserting itself into privatized sectors is where it becomes tyranny historically every single time (unless its objectively worse than its privatized counterpart) because a level of control over an existing system is required to implement radical social policies. No one signs up for private healthcare in Australia because it’s a waste of money - the government dominates the sector does it not?

Whereas socialist countries collapse because they try to do things the true socialist way - collapse the upper classes and print money into a debt black hole. Works short term, fails long term.

Well I would say that if you’re receiving the benefits without paying (in the case of the unemployed) then it is free. At least for the duration that you’re not working.

And it’s hardly being “taxed put of the ass”. The amount you have to pay is typically 1% of your yearly income. Which is nothing compared to how much money you save. The government’s Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme makes drugs 80 - 160% cheaper compared to the U.S. This program has been around since 1948 with no sign of dictatorship in sight. How is this government intervention a bad thing, again?

I guess I’ll continue living under the tyrannical rule of the Australian government and continue to pay far, far less for things like medecine and hospital expenses then while you continue to tell yourself how evil it is.

Anyway, if you love your current system then great. You’re the one that has to live with it.

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Case and point our private system is overfunded, your public system is underfunded at population of 25 million. Curious to hear your solution on this.

California is bigger than of most the aforementioned social policy utopias and its complete shit so we have that going for us.

What exactly do you mean? Population really has nothing to do with it. Smaller population = smaller funding. But it scales in accordance to the population that contributes to it.

Aren’t you paying 30% upwards in income taxes or something insane on the regular? Thats about how hard we tax our upper class here in capital gains for reference, idk what your general cost of living is.

Population has everything to do with it because you have to offset the people that aren’t working and huge pay gaps, which increases under a welfare state - see everyone that just stopped showing up to work because they were recieving more from the stimulus than they made to begin with.
Healthcare isn’t “scaled” here, we don’t directly fund the system. You work a job and the job covers your benefits to put it simply. Its when you try to fight the insurance companies and don’t buy into the system that you’re paying $150000 for random services out of pocket. It’s a monopoly designed to screw over people not playing ball.

Australia is a socialist country?

They screwed themselves with a couple social policies. Gun control, taxes, healthcare etc and sent all their manufacturing to china

Pretty extreme democrats compared to ours.

I can’t remember who but there was a socialist dictator who would go onto TV and walk into businesses and tell the owners they no longer owned it and forced them out

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On a serious note if I had to propose a system for the US it would be Singapore’s by state - without making doctors federal employees.

@Curisus

This is socialism

Yeah I know. I’m merely talking about aspects of it. Like democratic socialism or whatever you want to call it (like Bernie Sanders does). As we already have a lot of what he wanted.

I’m not saying that Australia is a socialist country (that would be stupid).

Are you really suggesting that you’d rather keep your fortnightly mass shootings? The last time we had one was in 1996. How exactly is that screwing ourselves?

People are fucked up in the US

Mental Disease out the wazoo

If there weren’t guns people will still find a way to kill en masse such as hoping in their car and mowing people down or creating explosives

Plus all the wrong people will still have guns like gangs

I could be wrong but that’s how I see it

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