I don’t want the damn thing to be useless, but one charged blast does insane damage. I think slightly reduce its splash damage, but also nerf Thick skin, nerf Bane, remove specializations. The FT should be heavily nerfed to make playing them require skill. And just slightly reduce plasma splash cause it’s just obnoxious to go against. Like someone can miss you entirely and blast 100 hp off you lol wat. So if you heavy nerf the ft I’d imagine you’d need to slightly nerf that as well. AS IS RN you NEED that damage to even have a chance. My point is, if we get the ft nerfs we need, we also need to nerf the obnoxious splash damage
This game is balanced
That’s how it should be.
The moment you go down it should be certain death.
No matter what you need to 2 charged shots to down an ft, by the time you charge those theres enough time for the rest of the time to cover them.
Dropping it down to 70 would make assualt and any class who had higher hp be too strong.
If you remove parry then you will never be able to drop ft damage to a reasonable and balanced amount.
I understand parrying is annoying but it kinda needs to be there otherwise theres no real defense against pred melee, IF ft damage is reasonable.
Also, as for you, even if you’re good at parry I can still kill you with melee cause you wont be able to parry the combi swings when I’m fully trying to avoid parrying.
Remember part of me loves the parry clash cause it looks cool, a little bit.
So I do go in stubbornly sometimes not fully trying to avoid it.
Sorry man, lowering anything on preds side will just fuck over pred.
And I dont want that.
It’s not a problem like you think.
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I don’t expect them to do as well. I expect them to do worse, because they deserve to do worse. Your acting like randoms are supposed to be just as good as premades when that makes no sense. And it’s not like randoms have to (or shouldn’t anyways) go against the same preds as pre-mades.
Again I don’t I expect them to do worse
THATS WHY ITS CALLED SKILL
The splash damage is not obnoxious.
It is an explosion.
The only obnoxious one is the grenade damage.
The reach from the splash is what?
5 meters?
From the center?
Makes sense for the type of attack that it is.
Its an explosion.
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Doesn’t Predator melee have a worse TTK than range?
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I feel in some cases both are about the same, but typically yes.
You can do the math to be sure tho.
Just take the damage, and add in the attack speed, plus the time to charge attacks if you want to take into consideration charged attacks.
Then compare it to ft.
I probably could but I dont really want to.
That is assuming Pred has perfect accuracy at range and that the FT doesn’t try to dodge. All Pred ranged weapons are particles that can be dodged or which you can put objects between to avoid splash. Melee has a better TTK if parrying is not used.
Range is also safer though do to range reduction and Predator cover
I dig that. Especially those 2-3 minute missions. Those need to go or be extended.
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That’s true. If you really wanted to buff predator melee, though, you could turn on partial damage for friendly fire. It’s hard not to at least get a stray bullet or two into a teammate when the pred gets close up.
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Except for Yautja Bow quick shots.
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A. Pred is still going to get melted. A bit of extra damage isn’t going to help that especially with med kits, both map and gear ones.
B. Trolls. I’d rather melee gets reworked
Yeah. It wold be nice to have passing attacks to the right and left. The lock on animations are what get predators melted in melee.
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A) The balance of the game is about attrition, all pred resources are unlimited, all FT resources are limited. Med kits will run out given time, it’s not THE solution, but I’d prefer something that strengthens existing balance mechanics to be included in the solution.
B) FT players that leave the game after match start are way more detrimental than trolls.
A. FT has enough healing right now
B. Even if you do change the healing you can just increase melee damage so that the buff is actually consistent, instead of being avoidable by just being good
Ya but imagine if they TK one of you then leave, then your out two team members, and a wasted reinforcements to bring your third back that’ll you’ll absolutely need. Or even worse stick around untill reinforcements and get a couple pot shots off.
It’s definitely a problem but whatever I’m not gonna argue back and forth haha. It’s by far the strongest thing the predator has and you can kill whole teams with it right now, and the game is SO heavily ft sided. So once the game was balanced, I can’t imagine it wouldn’t just be broken powerful. The only thing that makes it not certain death is self revive and Field medic, and those two things are broken. It’s just one broken thing justifying another. Why not just remove all the broken shit. Also parry is not necessarily even slightly. You have more than enough damage between 4 people to make melee no issue.
It’s also definitely obnoxious as fuck. Like objectively obnoxious there’s no two ways about that. It’s not an explosion at no point in the films does it land near someone and blow them up lol it does that damage for the sake of balance (which I like that it does!) and at the moment it NEEDS that damage for predators to have any chance. I think you are missing what I’m saying here boss. If we remove all the broken Ft bullshit, (which they should) and make the game more balanced damage wise, blasting 100 damage a shot would just be so fucking strong. Considering the bow and combi don’t even do that much and they are skill shots, and this thing can blast the whole team with that damage?!
A) they have enough healing right now, but they’d have less if they needed to heal more??? idk what that statement is about, it seems to have nothing to do with my statement that I think that FT should have partial team damage.
Trolls already blow up red barrels and leave. It wouldn’t change a thing.
We, for the most part agree on what balance should be.
I’m sure if the changes I’ve mentioned throughout the year were implemented you would like the state of the game.
However,
Just because you dont like the pc doesnt meant mean its objectively obnoxious.
Have a sniper on your team and it helps.
You have an serious issue which is you always think your right and try to just shut down others.
In most cases you arent really wrong, but with this one, yeah, you are.
You’re also wrong telling me it’s not an explosion.
Does this not look like an explosion to you?
The full charge damage and radius is fine.
You could get away with lowering the non charged splash radius.
However,
Full charge however, is fine.
Its adding more power to it, so of course its going to be stronger and bigger.
Sorry man I’m done letting ppl get away with the whole, “my perception is more important”
Either way, it’s not like were in total disagreement.
About everything.
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