Weapon damage reduced

#1

I think the fireteam weapon damage should be reduced its ridiculous that they can wipe out the predator so easily but it takes like 30 melese or plasma shots to take them down

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#2

Lmao you came in here expecting pred to be stronger than what he is atm right?

It takes 5 to 7 or 8 hits with melee to down a ft.
Plasma shots vary, but if you land full charged blast right next them, literally right next to them cause splash damage is so small, it takes 3 or 4. Sometimes 2 depending on the class.

You won’t get too many ppl who listen to you with a post like this. I agree ft does too much damage but a lot of ppl dont.

The game still needs more balancing.

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#3

Another terrible Predator… Smh

#4

I can’t even parry that good with gun out another terrible ft player

#5

Question. You a pred or ft main?

#6

my bet is he is a ps4 pred with crossplay off.

#7

I mean so am I, but tho I dont run into full parties too often, if I run into a full squad of players who know the game like I do, it becomes a hella pain in the ass.

And every time I’ve played with a full ft I see how much of an easy joke it is to win as ft. And I mean win by killing pred or extraction.

So I believe the damage ft does to pred is broken, even tho ppl think its balanced.
But I did like your idea of bullet drop and things like that which arent just direct changes to damage, but could help out.
Hell I’ve liked alot of your ideas tbh.

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#8

if you have crossplay off then can’t understand how different it is playing against PC. A good premade fireteam on PC will never lose. 100% win rate. Even against the best PC Pred.

But i guess on PS4 it may be different for pred, i dont know.

ths is why there are different opninon because defferent experience.
Some think pred is weak some think he is OP.

But at top level on PC, it is accepted that fireteam are better. by both pred mains and fireteam mains.

I find the ony disagreement comes from.

  1. people who play pub games as fireteam think pred is OP due to lack of teamwork.
  2. People on PS4 who dont ever play premade PC teams. (crossplay off)

I dont know how to balance it for everyone.

But personally, I think it should be balanced at the higher level of play.

#9

Thanks, and I may seem like a asshole at times but nothing personal to anyone.

#10

I think it should probably be balanced for the majority of players. And I am guessing that is not the higher level of play.

If leagues or what not want to have competitions, they would then use special rules to even the playing field however they see fit.

Examples: No reinforments. All FT must evac for it to be a win. FT must run one of each class. Etc.

I say this because I am no pro Predator or player, and I generally win public matches by wiping the fire team. If the balance is swung to be closer at high level play then I would fear that there will not be many casual players willing to play FT.

#11

Lol you actually do. Your idea of bonus or handicap stats xD.

#12

exactly the same thoughts here.
I win nearly all my pub games but then a top/good fireteam or pre-arranged match there is no competition and its not fun for the fireteams that are that good to play and have no chalange or risk of losing.

I feel a competative mode would have to be balanced differently to “normal” mode, but i wouldnt be against a comp mode.

#13

Well, yes, that would be the ideal but the work involved with a system like that and the issues others raised about “inconsistent damage” and feeling strange are very valid.

I realy do not see it being done ever.

#14

Oh ya it would take a hell of a lot of tweaking and adjustments. The only other ideas I’ve really liked are those of the game having a focus on actual stealth for both sides. But that’s just cause I love stealth games and have the patience for it.

#15

Well in these pre arranged matches see if the FT and Predators can agree on certain guidelines. This is the perfect place to try it out.

And play trying that. I think many other games have done this with player managed leagues.

If the premades are truly bored and truly crave an even sided challenge I think they will bite.

#16

In short, this should weed out those who actually enjoy a challenge vs those who just enjoy being on the positive side of a lopsided game.

#17

All I’m saying is that I think the damage should be balanced I’m an ailen with freaking insane amount of strength and hunt other lifeforms for sport sometimes bigger and angrier and meaner so the predator shouldn’t go down so easy

#18

We would need metrics (which I hope illfonic is tracking) to know where balance stands and hope that it swings more towards a 50/50.

Are you supersayin that you are seeing much more FT wins in public queue?

#19

In my experience I see more fireteam wins then predator

#20

I do not think the Predators are really that much stronger than a human or whatever they hunt.

I think that is the point. If they just wanted to kill humans they could use space ships and just bombard the planet.

They want to strip down to netted undies, use basic (to them) tech and personally challenge themselves.

When humans hunt it is usually against helpless prey. The Predators I think want to hunt something that is actually dangerous to them, that is the point of their hunts.