Who doesn't like a good mystery?

#52

To give a basic background to the names and thier part in this ill list them. Also if you are able listen to all of the vids it will put it in context as when i started there was never anything compiling a lot of the aspects so I decided to make my own to shed some light in it.

Richard Doty- Special agent tasked with running the op for the AF

Bill moore- recruited by AFOSI to spy on Paul

Leo Sprinkle- a psychiatrist who worked with Paul in his investigation to an alleged abduction

Gabe Valdez- a NM state trooper in the Dulce area who would be heavily involved in getting to the bottom of the mutilations

Edmund and Manuel Gomez- ranchers who were running the family business during the time this all took place

Phil Schneider- not directly involved in the bennewitz affair, but a geologist and whistle blower who allegedly helped expand the underground facility in Dulce who after his speaking out was murdered less than 5 years after and passed off as a suicide.

Greg Bishop- an author who wrote a book on the case who tends to side with the gov. explanations mostly.

#53

I guess i need to watch moar.

Yeah it sucks that people’s lively good was impacted in such a way.

Isn’t his friend saying that he was loosing it as far as grandeur and paranoia?

#54

Yea somewhat but depends which “friend” you mean where he had some genuine friends and others claiming to be a friend but working against him the difference was that the gov. and thise pushing the gov narritive say he was paranoid aliens were everywhere and those who knew him say he was paranoid at what the agent is were doing as far as surveilling him. In the 1st video Bill moore is the first one speaking saying paul was told to back off because he was on sensitive grounds to which he “nearly attacked them”, but when Doty talks about it he claims Paul told them if it was yop secret military then he would back off because he was a patriot that can easily be told to do so and yet in another instance he claims they had to convince him it was UFOs because they weren’t sure he can be trusted (even tho he had contracts with major US companies) and in another inter iew he claims Paul already thougjt it was UFOs. So you can see thier still actively trying to confuse the whole situation. Not to mention nothing paul saw and recorded has never been disclosed all these years later.

He was onto something tho and many of his photos are near impossible to find except a handful and his videos have never been seen but his friend has stills from the video of the things he saw flying out of an AF base in Albuquerque. Here is another one of the more interesting photos he took. The man in the bottom by the jeep was head of base security who’s name is Ernest Edwards.

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#55

Whoever is talking in first vid that refers to himself as the guys friend.

He probably was onto something.

#56

The first guy in the 1st video is Bill Moore who was recruited by some high intelligence offer whos name has never been revealed. Once he accepted he was put in contact with special agent Doty where he was briefed on what was expected of him which was to spy on Paul and other ppl in that community. He was one that was acting as friend but was really working against him via the AFOSI.

Genuine friends that Paul worked with were Gabe Valdez and Edmund Gomez. The videos have time stamps so you can skip to the different parts. If you listen to Gabes parts he is one who clears the air on which aspects were true and being a state trooper he goes by physical evidence and was always described as a straight forward stand up guy.

#57

I dont know the names yet, but the guy who was saying that FBI was leading Paul on with the UFO story and that he was becoming nuts seed like a friend or at least on Paul’s side.

#58

Yea he tends to paint himself in a better light the few times hes talked about it, but Doty would also paint himself as a friend. What contradicts that is that the guy that were talking about was breaking in Paul’s home and stealing pictures and video. It was also said that when they would break in his home they would move his furniture around to further attempt to have him go crazy.

The thing is they tried and succeeded in ruining his reputation by saying he was nuts and delusional. At the very least he was entertaining some far out theories. If you see his notes he logs all the data that he uncovered which made him even consider it. A letter he wrote to a friend had stated “I would not be able to beileve it either had it not been happenin in 1st person”

#59

But he did come forward with this information, right? He can say that he was tasked with ruining Paul’s reputation, but he probably doesn’t really know much about why beside that it wasn’t ufos

#60

That’s possible but from a counter intelligence stand point consider this:

We have a man with credentials that was able to intercept, photograph, and record these things flying around and was able to determine where the signal was being directed and to be brief he ends up in dulce new mexico where he’s picking up the same thing where there isn’t suppose to be any military activity. Now that he knows of a secretive base on native land conducting various experiments that are typically not legal and has a state trooper to verify his claims and both have been gathering evidence. How can we shut this thing down? Well lets tell him its real but its aliens doing all this nefarious activity then once he begins to share it with anyone we have our recruited spy (bill moore) come out and admit it was ALL made up and this mans just really delusional.

What does that do? Well anybody who was interested is now deterred by the claim it was all made up and was part of disinformation. Although there was disinfo much of it was true as far as the crafts(what ever or who ever is in them), clandestine experiments, and a underground base where these craft and experiments are done and housed. Now since he had a lot of evidence to support most of the claims we’ll have to take that evidence and itll be our word against his and now ppl think he’s off the hinges.

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#61

I get all of that. They cozy up, get the docs and screw up his reputation. Seems like a good plan. I guess if you have FBI involved, something big must be going on one way or the other.

#62

To correct 1 thing, in the video he’s saying the OSI. The FBI was not really involved necessarily by that I mean when the community pushed the for the governer to get to the bottom of the mutilations a retired FBI agent came in to investigate. In Valdez last interview he makes it clear that once that investigation started mutilations stopped and the fmr agent didn’t go over his evidence and instead said it was results of predator attacks. Once he wrapped it up the mutilations continued and they started placing bugs in the rancher and the state troopers house.

As he says if it was all fake then why were they going to great lengths to downplay and have so much concern with what him, the rancher, and paul were doing.

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#63

Yeah. That makes sense.

#64

There’s a lot that i haven’t mentioned but thats the jist of it. Now bob lazars case has overshadowed this one even tho he had no evidence just his word and ppl believe it. I could be wrong about him but its just my hunch because of what was done to a guy with proof vs a guy with a story regardless whether its aliens, us, or a combination of the 2.

#65

Yeah I cant make shit out on those images 😁 maybe I need glasses.

All I know is that if the government are now telling me that ufos are real? Then its probably bullshit. Didn’t Ronald Reagan say that a new world order would claim their is an other worldly
Threat , to justify one department for the world? That opens a whole can of worms if anybody crooked gets to the top and thats about 99% of governments in 2022

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#66

Lol well the pics are from the 70s and 80s. That’s the idea tho so if there’s no aliens they’d have to have something to convince ppl they are real. Bringing up the pics tho I’ve never seen any declassified plane or drone that looks like either of em.

But my first thought when they came out and said “yes we’ve had and have secret programs looking into UFOs, we have exotic materials that are in underground facilities, and the way we got around FOIA request was by contracting out the program to private companies” i thought hmmm that’s interesting that the AF claimed this guy paul was warning of a potential threat and they went all in on him, but now all of a sudden they wanna come out and basically say almost the same thing? Didn’t make no sense.

#67

Well wouldn’t they just say its a threat to national security to release anything they might be working on ? I remember reading that they thought the germans had far more advanced aircraft than anybody else ? Like the rest of some of their military vehicles. People claimed to have witnessed aircraft shaped like flying saucers, but who the fuck knows

#68

Ofcourse thats thier excuse for releasing anything that might expose what thier doing and im sure in some cases its justifiable, but an example i would use where thier over reaching and violating rights is the patriot act. They used the 9/11 attack(regardless if it was staged or real) as a means to pass laws that violate everybodies rights by surveilling communications of everyone and they said this was for national security and if you have nothing to hide you shouldn’t be concerned…like wtf kinda shit is that.

Not to mention they gave congress, i think its was a couple of days to read through the bill and was 4,000 and somethin pages long…and these fucks still passed it with out reading through it all. If it was for national security then how do they always manage to drop the ball at the worst times possible and then say well we needa make more laws and legislation. I don’t think everyone in gov. is bad but forsure there’s a powerful group who has leverage or something and have some kind of agenda. There’s a quote that comes to mind and i may butcher it, but goes somethin like "the 9 words you never wanna hear is “im from the government and im here to help”

Whats crazy is that’s all they say now and everyone eats it up and thinks its a good thing. From guns, financial issues, equality, and the list goes on and on.

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#69

The great reset is upon us

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#70

You will own nothing and be happy!

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#71

One time, at a cafe in Amersterdam (when it was still legal), my friend took 8 grams of mushrooms and could see some hot female alien looking strippers dancing to the music in his mind. Like they were seducing him, then says it feels like he is driving a UFO. Some disembodied (alien?) voice starts showing him things he said words cannot describe: the creation and destruction of worlds. A large gate with majestic lettering its beauty beyond language. A city stuck in time, with great ancient cathedrals with advanced lasers from the future beaming from the top.

He said the hot chick aliens who guided his trip kinda looked like this, but way more seductive.

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Based on his story I would say it is possible mushrooms are primitive UFOs. Even the mushroom caps look like UFO craft when fully mature.

My friend does not recommend anyone take mushrooms. But if your friend does…