why knife hurt so bad?

So just got done with a match where it was 1v1. I wasnt gonna murder the dude who stayed so I decided to mess around. After 5 min of playing peek a boo, I told em to knife me. It took a mere 10 stabs to kill me. That was just 1 guy. So god damn imagine 2 or 3 ppl on me with knives, that’s literally like all my health in a few seconds. I demand less ouch from knife.

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The high melee damage is meant to counter quick melee encounters, so I dont think the melee damage is going anywhere. If you know the person is good with a knife then you just have to improvise and use more range.I mean a predator can 2-3 hit somebody with melee if they dont know how to parry so it’s not far fetched.

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I can work around it but but fk I think it’s too much.

In post patch cause the parry did not cost stamina I would see that they would parry but before the they do they all rdy have the knife out before predator gets closer, so ppl are they still playing like that I’m surprised cause now that it cost stamina I thought they would parry once then shoot gun

Well yeah because all the stamina cost did was make it to where you cant run away, so if you are still good at parrying it doesnt matter lol

I feel its in decent spot. Melee needs fixing on both ends.

I mean theoretically, if a Predator was shived up 10 times it’d do some hefty damage.

If 4 commandos tackled it at once and knifed it up, I could totally see a Predator losing to a shank session.

Honestly take it as a warning. Don’t overstay your welcome in close quarters. They can’t throw the knife so you’re safe at a range.

More than 2 squad members close by will always be too big a risk in melee combat. Just my opinion though.

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i don’t see anything blatantly wrong with the melee right now. sure they could both be tweaked a bit, but it’s not like good players on either sides are being dominated by the other.

not only that, but i’m pretty sure that knives ALWAYS have the highest dmg in every pvp game. it’s a risk/reward weapon and the pred definitely has the advantage in melee in this game. “a mere 10” is not a small number of hits, especially with all the advantages that the pred has.

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It seems you guys think I’m saying this is completely fkn me over. It’s not. Il say it again I can work around it. But I think it’s too much. To me it’s not fair, and it leads to some teams tryna chase a pred down. Theres also been these cocky ass ft players that try to act all hardcore. It’s like, ft has the fkn advantage. Literally unless you play smart as pred you ain’t killing shit.

The only time just swinging wildly as pred and doing nothing else works is if your team dont work together.

So people are supposed to fear the pred right? Then I dont think that’s bvb eing accomplished when you have ppl who fearlessly try to hunt preds. I dont care if ppl wanna focus killing preds. Put up a fight that’s cool but fearlessly?

@JudgementalOstrich yes it is a small number of hits. I keep seeing you all over wanting to nerf pred. Ft is still too strong. Keep them how they are if yall want. I want them nerfed but whatever il work around the bullshit and keep killing ppl.
But then at least return my plasma cannon charged splash damage.

Cause right now all it does is tickle people.

@WhiteKala78 overstay my welcome? I didnt say this was killing me every game, I’m not stupid I stay mobile, besides the little parry bullshit doesn’t really work on me, ppl keep tryna parry me and it about 90% of the time gets them killed.

I’m not really struggling. All I’m saying is that stuff like the knife being that damn strong and pred hitting kinda weak is a pain in the ass cause you get people who look at pred like a joke.

Somebody even brought up that going by lore, a 50. cal would tear a preds limbs. I’d be even fine with that if I hit harder. Cause I feel if your within 5 feet of a full charge plasma shot it should kill your ass and melt your flesh and bones.

it’s almost as if that’s how you’re supposed to play the pred…

i don’t think i’ve asked for any nerfs on the pred at all, other than the combi stick right after launch lol everything else after that were counter points as to why the pred doesn’t need to be buffed in certain areas; which isn’t wanting nerfs.

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@JudgementalOstrich No I saw one where you basically wanted pred to be visible while clocked. And thanks smart ass, in regards to how you’re supposed to play comment.

I meant you have to literally go above and beyond.
You shouldn’t have to play that damn tactical when you have alien tech.

From what I’ve seen from your post you want ft to have advantage. Which ok, sure. That’s what you want.

But at the very least then you wanna keep your super strong ft, then give me more damage with cannon.
You may not see it or feel the same way but ft is still too strong.

Video games have to be less realistic than movies you gotta let that comparison go it makes no sense mentioning that. Video games have to be playable at the end of the day cause there two kinds of players meta and casual and the balance has to meet in the middle, sometimes meta players go up against causal players and one side is all ways crying the casuals then they demand so much much stuff but don’t look at the way they play

So Predator isnt typical horror creature.

The iconic line literally says, “If it bleeds, we can kill it.”

The game gives four nerds access to a bunch of guns and put them in a commando unit based off movie in a world world where the Terminator and steroid infused tank dudes fought an alien with guns and then single man army style.

Its an action PVP game. There’s no horror or fear. Never will be. Its base off a (great) cheesy action movie from 1987.

The “fear” would come if the Predator felt unbeatable, like the Alien from Isolation. You can give players a fucking toothpick and if they knew they could fight back with it, they would still show no fear. You can give them bare hands and they’ll still do it.

Also the “Overstay your welcome” isn’t an insult but literally me saying, to any Pred jumping in for a melee attack “You better make sure these hit their marl because that fire team is gonna right on your ass in 2 seconds.”

@WhiteKala78 Lmao that toothpick comment was great xD. I ain’t no bitch tho attitude. I get that I just feel preds slacking atm. Idc if he’s squishy, if he hit a bit harder.

There are players who are neither meta nor casual, who fall in between. They do their own thing and can keep up with meta high rankers. I’m one of those players.
My comparison makes no sense? Nah it does. The point is if I’m gonna take a lot of damage then let me deal alot. I’m perfectly fine being a glass cannon.

Think more about the drain game if you can. Some match OBJs fly by in like 5 mins. Wear them down. Don’t go for skulls and kills right away.

Down them. Let them get picked up. Down him again, oop no perk? Well that guys dead. They’ll leave his body and you quick collect.

If they bring him back that’s ok, you’ll have been wear the other three down the whole way and they’ll be beat up when he comes back.

Play the long game. Shooters got itchy fingers, when you can out wait them, they’ll make a mistake first usually.

So what they tagged you up and you gotta run a bit? Let them follow burn time or this is the chance for one brave idiot to break off. If they all follow the leave OBJs and got less time complete if you don’t give in to their chase and they finally turn around.

There so many ways to play the predator u can even bully the ft with scout class towards the end of the game with leap slams once u have picked them of decently with dmg with the arrows, I was even downing them with just the leap slams with scout so really when u play other class of predators u should not be complaining really cause they more better in close combat against ft

It depends on the match and players. Some you can do that to some you cant. I try to play accordingly, I make it work. Honestly the only thing I really want, is plasma caster to do more splash damage. Not a whole lot, maybe 25 or 20% I just feel it only tickles the ft.

Gimme that and il be happy. I dont want to use the range perk however cause I feel if I took out fearless my melee wouldn’t do anything.

So you’re the reason ppl keep complaining about slam. Makes sense. And I can complain if I want. I just dont like how i feel weak. But dont get me wrong, it’s not like struggling every game, I just feel too weak. That’s all.

Maybe I should post a montage of my team wipes idk.

no. i said the pred shouldn’t be 100% invis while jumping from tree to tree(something that’s not even in the game or ever was) and that the pred actually being visible while being cloaked was iconic in the movies, which it is.

that’s not how balance works. like, at all. you’re idea of “above and beyond” doesn’t mean anything because you could be an absolute dogshit pred player.

that’s literally how every game is supposed to be.

this will just prove my point, so please do.

you can’t complain about the pred being too weak and then try to stealth brag with montages of team wipes lol you’re either not as good as you think you are, or you’re a hypocrite.

again, it not being fair to you doesn’t mean anything because you could be terrible. and you said it yourself, “SOME teams”, not all, which just shows that everyone has a different level of skill and different play style.

literally just your opinion.

so you don’t want to use a perk that addresses the issue you have with the pc being too weak because you want to maintain the even bigger melee advantage at the same time? it’s also worth mentioning that majority of people on here agree that the pred’s melee is fine where it is, even without the perk.

Predator slam is very situational its not a game changer all the time, there times when I have low health or I’m facing a ft that’s spreads out well the only time ft should be close together is when one is caught in the net trap so another ft player can free them, I’m not the cause of nothing and every game I play is different