Cheaters

[JelouGaming]

@Scarface_1983

I don’t get overly upset when I lose

You understand that I have livestreams playing with you where you literally start insulting the pred calling it trash on discord because you died and you always get salty about it?

You have literally quit a team lobby after losing one match because we are bored and started trying meme loadouts because shit is too easy.

You call me out saying I’m full of shit trying to get me banned from a discord because you self-identified when I called other people pussies and then come here and say this load of crap?

[Finessology]

DISCORD DRAMA COMMENCE

[bendinglight]

You should be used to the terminology, because you cheated by abusing the exploit. gtfoh with your bull shit.

[Scarface_1983]

That’s why I said not overly upset.

[Scarface_1983]

@JelouGaming

because you self-identified when I called other people pussies

You and I both know you’re the biggest pussy in this game. But for you to come on here and start insulting your own friends is beyond bs. If those guys can’t stand up for themselves, that’s them. But I’m not gonna just stay quiet when someone insults my friends the same way I defended you when sharpy kicked you out the server, but you turned out to be a two faced bitch.

[JelouGaming]

i say things as it is. i dont mind getting called pussy or trash (unlike you). i never needed to be defended. im no damsel in distress. if you wanna be a white knight, thats on you. sharpy and i solved our differences on our own. like grown adults.

[Scarface_1983]

Whether you did or not it doesn’t changed the fact that I am a real homeboy even if it’s friends online. I defended you regardless because I thought it was the right thing to do just like now with this.

But whatever man, it is what it is.

Some people just don’t have any principles.

[Arnie.schwarzewigger]

[DPRK_Chopra]

hell yeah, boys.

[Bonator]

@Finessology

In the sense that no traditional cheats exist for a serversided RTS or MOBA yes.

Bullshit, sorry dude…

We were e.g. talking about disarming the predator bomb in less then a second - no problem to cheat this client side.

[Bonator]

@FairYautja

No, you are not right. Chameleon Wallhack (thus Cham) use API hook in DirectX library (thus DX11) to find model vertex in Z buffer (depth) “which tells camera” if the model should be visible or not. Then it simply makes that model visible. Link to unknowncheats.me points to somebody’s work who did the boring work to lookup needed “footprints” to highlight them. In Z buffer there are no objects like “player” or “tree” and you have to guess them by their depth and dimensions. So it work because they interact with data going to graphics card, not to server.

Although I have no specific knowledge about this one, generally speaking, client side hacks using methods alike you have described are possible. So: well said FairYautja, ditto!

[Bonator]

I think, we had that kind of “discussion” already, remember:

No PC Players do not cheat

@JelouGaming It just came to my mind, that I even might not have to do it for myself - as nowadays we also have youtube :) Watch some nice real time edge detection here (by the way, showing some half a dozen in parallel too:): Accepted?

??

Back then, I came to the conclusion, that you just do not want to accept arguments. It seems that this has not changed.

Nevertheless:

@Finessology

This game is serversided which is why its so aggravatingly buggy actually - any packets not properly recieved result in your claims not working, downed players sliding around shooting, and you getting shot through walls.

This might be true…

How do you know that the game is completely server-sided? Is that knowledge or an assumption?

[Finessology]

Game’s netcode was discussed in the “How does lag work” thread with input from Hamlet saying the same thing i’m saying right now.

Pixel hunting edge detection GPU hooks are such an unfeasible fringe argument that the burden of proof is on you to identify sharpy or anyone from russia as some kind of expert hardware engineer. A game is not a custom nvidia filter, naturally @JelouGaming doesn’t have to argue you pulling up something completely unrelated to this game.
Stuff like what you posted previously is used to autoadjust gamma, contrast, and lighting on adaptive gaming monitors that claim they help you see the opponent by reducing the intensity of shadows etc - if that’s your idea of modern day client side hacking then no theres no point in arguing with you. Speedhacks, damage mods, no clip. Impossible, impossible, impossible. Period.

The server sends you the position of players WHEN you can see them instead of sending it all the time and making your client determine which ones you can see and which ones you can’t. This isn’t a new invention.

[Bonator]

@Finessology

Game’s netcode was discussed in the “How does lag work” thread with input from Hamlet saying the same thing i’m saying right now.

Thanks for the information! I’ll try to have a peek into said thread eventually, sounds interesting.

[Bonator]

@Finessology

Pixel hunting edge detection GPU hooks are such an unfeasible fringe argument

That sounds a bit strange, if you immediately after that state, that

@Finessology

Stuff like what you posted previously is used to autoadjust gamma, contrast, and lighting on adaptive gaming monitors that claim they help you see the opponent by reducing the intensity of shadows

But anyways, I feel no need to discuss that further.

[Finessology]

Any other shooter i’d be like yeah sure theres hax even with kernel AC but this game has clown world netcode.

@Bonator

That sounds a bit strange, if you immediately after that state, that

@Finessology

Stuff like what you posted previously is used to autoadjust gamma, contrast, and lighting on adaptive gaming monitors that claim they help you see the opponent by reducing the intensity of shadows

But anyways, I feel no need to discuss that further.

Because thats what is considered practical for a company that makes gaming monitors. Cheats are hardware bound eventually but it’ll be mouse loaded if anything. Nvidia hates hooks & pixel hunting is too obtuse, reliant on fps, resolution and too many variables. Smart monitors are jank as is.

[GreyBack]

@Scarface_1983

I don’t get overly upset when I lose.

@JelouGaming

You understand that I have livestreams playing with you where you literally start insulting the pred calling it trash on discord because you died and you always get salty about it?

@Scarface_1983

That’s why I said not overly upset.

I’m sorry, but I just found this exchange to be both funny and a good summing up of the hyper-obnoxious state of online gaming. The heavy lifting ‘overly’ is doing is quite something.

If you feel the need to shout, bawl and call a player trash when they’ve beat you, you have issues.

[Arnie.schwarzewigger]

The trick to being a great asshole , is to call them trash before the match begins , then it cant be classed as being salty after a loss 🧐👍🏻 you got to think ahead mate

[FairYautja]

I am so sorry, I apologize. I will do my homework and learn all terms so next time such experienced pro cheater like you will not have to correct me again.

BTW I assume you still abuse this exploit as you know it still works.

[Scarface_1983]

The hypocrisy of these people is that when they do it, they find nothing wrong with it, but when it’s done to them, that’s when they take a stand against it.

Lmaooooo…fucking hypocrites.