Hand to hand combat predator gets beat.

#61

Not trying to trick you simple trying to see what we are refering to here. are we talking strictly 1v1 in wich case iv never had issue with it just mix up melee and range and they cant out DPS or out health you.

If we are talking 1v1 when you drop in and try to kill someone in the group and the rest turn and shoot you and he parries you, yeah that happens a lot to me too, you just leap out and come back to fight another day.

I dont really have an issue with either, gota pick the right engagments and get a bit lucky sometimes.

I understand you are having issue with it and this is just my persepctive, thats fine.
Just trying to understand what it is you feel needs to change.

lets just say parry changes a bit or knifes get nerfed more agains pred for example. what do you do as FT to stop CombiZerk rush? say you cant out DPS him every time?

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#62

People are forgetting that there are hidden unlockable melee weapons like the Gutter? Longer blades etc pretty sure they’re not just cosmetics and have variables for damage attached.

#63

hmm, dont know about that to be fair. worth checking out .

Private game vs a pred and see how many slashes to take him down. then test against another knife.

I suspect its just cosmetic tho but just my guess

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#64

Unless someone hosts a private game to test the 1v1 aspects of melee, showing all benefits of perks etc and classes this argument is going to keep going in circles.
The burden of proof is on those crying about Predator Vs Fireteam melee being unbalanced and unfair.

#65

Last night I ended up in a match where the other guys left and it was me and the Predator. I was gutted for the Predator player knowing how long those guys have to wait for a match so I spoke to the player on the mic (he didn’t have a mic, toggled Ready/Unready at the launch to let me know he could hear me), and said I’ll stay if he just lets me complete the first objective and grab some VT (solo versus a Predator I do not have any dreams of being able to win). The guy turned out to be really cool and actually helped me take out the AI so I said he could kill me at the exfil zone when I’m waiting for the chopper because there’s a PlayStation Trophy “So Close, Yet So Far” for killing the Fireteam before they can escape on the helicopter. It seemed only fair, he could have killed me at any moment and ended the game but in the end teaming up with me made for an entertaining time.

It took exactly 3 slashes of his wristblade to down me when I had max health & OWLs Training perk which gives reduced damage from Predator attacks. He was a Hunter Predator, not sure what perks he was running though.

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#66

yeah i do that too when theres only 1 guy.

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#67

here’s some footage I took of me parrying a predator, far more times than I should of been able to.

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#68

I think FT should be able to pick up the smart disc and combistick. That would justify them besting ol predo in hand to hand combat

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#69

Nice parry work👍🏼
Each strike seriously drains your stamina, and it’s up to the Predator player to take advantage of that.

#70

The thing is, it’s 100 percent factual that with just 2 people you will out DPS Combistick berserker. I’ve done 5 games where just 2 people load in, and every time the berserker thinks, oh just two Lemmy blitz them. And 4 out of 5 of those times we’ve killed it. And the funny thing is the only loss I have in those 2v1 games was from a hunter using net gun and bear traps and it was still a good game. Parry is unneeded at its current state to kill the predator as a team. If they never change it, honestly I will still always play the game I love predator so no chance I just drop it. It just seems silly to me that I can stun him in place. My initial thoughts for balancing of the parry is heavily reduce time stunned. Or just remove it the stun all together

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#71

Stamina is only used for parrying and sprinting, and you aren’t sprinting while fighting. So there is not much to take advantage of there. Maybe if melee swings cost stamina as well, but currently you have plenty of stamina to parry swing parry swing and just keep going.

#72

nice parrying bro! i wish i could do that shot lol

I suck at it

#73

id be happy with tweaking stuff but i just dont want to see parry gone. its a good mechanic imo.

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#74

Ok having watched this, wtf😂 you literally had no stamina and were still parrying. So parrying doesn’t need stamina to work it just drains it?? Yikes.

#75

I agree it’s nice to actually like melee fight the predator, I just wanna see it become a cooler mechanic than what it is. Like if you fight the predator that way it should be bad ass and ballsy not the meta. Having watched his clip, I didint know you could parry with no stamina so that’s bonkers. Make it so you can’t parry at all without stamina, and have enough stamina for max 2 parries. Or something I don’t know I’ve never made a video game I’m just spit balling

#76

im ok with this. Big boy should have just been slamming the roof. If he wants to run into a crowded room with his claws he shouldnt be able to just down people willy nilly. You always have Plasma and you always have claws. You can still claw with plasma selected. There is no reason to run with claws unless you are being cocky, which is fine too. You can melee and let off some plasma if they parry though.

Then there are the other weapon selections which also give you options instead of just running around trying to melee everyone with your claws. With the other options it is entirely possible to deal damage and get melee hits without everything being parried all the time, this predator was not making use of those.

#77

I’m ok with predators being punished for being stupid I’m just not sure why everyone insists parry is the mechanic that allows it. If Parry did not exist that predator is still dead. 4 people spraying him? The parry is just extra bonkers and makes sometimes good melee ambushes against a single person backfire horribly

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#78

Yeah, the parry needs to stay, the stun is a little ridiculous, but, for all the bitching and moaning I’ve heard over this game since launch, I can’t put it down. Yeah sure there are lots of bugs, but it’s fucking fun!

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#79

I agree it’s literally all I play lol. So glad they went for it and gave it the original vibe of the film. But yes. The stun is bonkers being able to parry without stamina and swinging it bonkers so basically infinite parry never left. Make that change and see if it feels a little better

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#80

I’ve been lvl 100 since 3 days after launch, I play about 4/5 Pred, 1/5 FT. I haven’t died as Pred since lvl 62. Haven’t won all my games, but no one has downed me. I see FTs trying new tactics and exploits all the time. It’s on you as the hunter to outsmart your prey so you can claim their spine. Sometimes they just play so well, they leave no openings for you to exploit. You take that experience and learn, so next time you can win

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