I just got banned from a steamer's chat for pointing out that a succesfull detonation = win for the pred..

#61

Nah

#62

Yeahhh!! XD

#63

So you pointed out that a succesful detonation = win for pred or that if you don’t disarm its not a win? Perhaps you detailed it in some reply but to many (60).

If you don’t disarm that is not a win for the FT, its confirmed since you don’t get a point in weekly where you need to win.
I am not sure about the killing the entire team with the bomb but that should also be a draw. Both sides are DEAD, don’t see why one should win. Its just that pred get’s more kills.

On the other hand I could not care less about disarming, I get nothing aside for another round of killing mindless bots with no reward. So I never disarm, as long as the pred is dead, its a win from my perspective, that is all I care to see, the pred dead.

#64

So if pred suicides with caster across the map = win

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#66

Same here, if I kill it and he blows his ass up without killing me, it’s a win for me in my book.

#67

So by your logic: at the end of Predator '87 Dutch didn’t win even though he injured the pred to (near) death and avoided being blown up because he didn’t diffuse the bomb? Lol cool story bro 👍

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#68

Dude… I didn’t make the rules… it is what it is till the devs change it.

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#69

Until the devs change it… Yep.

#70

As the rules are now, if the pred detonates he wins. The FT lose. No matter if the FT live or die. There are lore reasons for this as well. Even if you survive the blast, you don’t get your missions complete and in all likelihood will die a slow death of radiation sickness. (unless you’re playing Dutch of’course) hehe.

#71

All this time & the most optimal way to play pred is to suicide at match start.

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#72

If you’re already max level and just want to piss people off, yep.

#73

You’re going to need to prove the developers consider even killing the entire team as a win for pred, let alone if he just blows up. For a draw its clear since the weekly/daily does not count it (FT side). But a win for pred? Yeah, i need some evidence of this (and I don’t mean lore from the movies or whatever). Even the guys doing the PS tournament considered a failed detonation as a WIN for FT, now I am saying draw, but a win for pred? Yeah, need evidence of that.

#74

Correction, bomb does not = win for pred… It means the FT don’t win. So that can be interpreted however you feel. I personally think a detonation feels more like a draw either way. If if it kills people, that’s just bonus warm and fuzzies, but the FT don’t get credit for some daily/weekly challenges depending what it is. I know some of those you can get credit for even if the bomb goes off or getting claimed. Like shooting off preds mask for instance. So you can say from that angle it was a “side win” ? The devs have only stated goals in the extras menu in game. Complete missions and Exfil, Kill pred, disarm bomb, turn in body = Win. All other outcomes are NOT wins… But not specifically stated as a “loss” either. I think they purposely left that up to players to interpret.

#75

You said and I quote "As the rules are now, if the pred detonates he wins. The FT lose. No matter if the FT live or die. " That is what I addressed. I do think that is a draw to the devs, to me? All I want is to kill the pred when I play so achieve my goal. But yeah, those are not wins for FT, the only way to win going by the daily is disarming and escaping.

#76

Yeah. I’m wrong about it being a “win” for the pred. But it’s definitely not a win for the FT.

#77

That I agreed with since my first post in this topic :)

#78

There’s 5 outcomes.

FT exfil (win)
FT defuse (win)
Pred roar (win)
explosion (tie)
everyone dies(tie)

#79

Maybe. I tend to think the bomb is a way to erase evidence, mission impossible style, and/or, a spy taking poison. Or Maybe it’s all of the above.

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#80

I’ll do this if I’m up against one of those overly sweaty teams where they’re mostly all Dutch/Support with the clear intention of hunting me and nothing else. I’ll gauge after the first engagement what their motives are, and if it’s going to be one of those 4v1 situations instead of a 1v4 then fuck them, you don’t get my mask for your weekly, you don’t get a drawn out game gaining you loads of XP and VT. I’ll let them second wind me and detonate with my middle Yautja finger in the air, and move on to the next match.

Personally, only the “Fireteam Eliminated” screen is a win for me and that’s all I’m interested in. If they extract, they win. If they manage to kill me and secure the body, much kudos to them for the win.

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#81

its more like a tie and not lose/win

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