Yeah motion detectors if you get detected by them then the FT should just start reading off your IP address and if your using a VPN then it should start an Ad for the VPN
Is this damage normal?
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Also those that know in this game you are going to lose some maybe win some, not everything needs a nerf but there are balance issues that need resolved.
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Sounds to me like you all just want to be the Upgrade Predator, running around and smashing everything until it’s dead.
Predators. Are. Not. Bullet. Sponges.
Predators use ranged attacks to hunt. Save the melee for the last guy alive if you really want the win, or show some tactical awareness and mix up your ranged and melee attacks.
Predators have close to 1 shot potential themselves. The damage IS needed. Predators are not supposed to soak damage, they are supposed to avoid it. Try to find a good predator on PC that knows how to leap and uses the pistol + elder sword combo, its a nightmare. This game is balanced differently. Yes, a single FT can solo the pred, IF the skill gap is MASSIVE but no, you’re not supposed to just sit there and take the damage, if the pred is good, he is not going to take said damage.
Now I have no clue how PRO russian premades that turn down the gfx and what not go but I do think that is like the very small minority… Fire, how much do you win when you randomly que as the predator? Is it above 60%? If the answer is yes… Please move on dude, the other side needs to win from time to time just as well or they stop playing.
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Xan you refuse to listen to reason.
I keep telling you, if a team faction character can single handedly kill the solo faction character in a 1v4 game, that is unfair and unbalanced, because the damage multiplied by 2, 3 or 4 people will be extremely unreasonable.
That’s just common sense.
But ive played both sides extensively unlike you.
So given the fact that you focus and only play one side, why should get any say when it comes to balance?
Why should anyone take you seriously when you’re extremely biased?
Cause honestly dont let the jokes and memes I post fool you.
I have from the very start always done my very best to come up with feedback that is far for both sides.
You wanna keep having this stubborn attitude with me?
Then go play pred, and face premade teams.
Tell me then how balanced and fair it is.
If the preds so OP you should win easily right?
And I say fight premades so you dont have to wait in a que.
I would like to point you to this topic:
Now, no FT can take in a 1v1 a predator. Not a chance. This is, of course assuming that the pred and the FT don’t have a massive skill gap!
You’re just focusing on “if the predator just stands there and does nothing the FT can kill it”. How the hell does that make sense? You expect the predator to turn invincible if 4 players are not shooting at him or what? The predator is not a TANK, he is supposed to avoid the damage.
If the predator loses a 1v1 encounter the FT was far, far better then him.
Xan, I dont expect the pred to just stand there. But were not dodging bullets. Were dodging lazers.
So I even agree with you on that.
I also agree that if a pred gets entirely 1v1d, that they need to play better.
I’m not talking or arguing the personal aspect.
I am purely arguing vs the numbers.
Because they are unbalanced and unfair.
It’s pretty fucking ridiculous that I can agree with you, see where you’re coming from, but every single time I bring up a pretty reasonable point, you only try to shut me down.
Why is that?
Why is it that you ignore what in talking about, and twist it into something else, but I never do that to you?
I actually listen.
I dont agree however, not on the skill part, but the stats. The numbers.
I literally cant be anymore reasonable man.
The only reason I keep arguing this is because I KNOW that it’s not fair, and its unbalanced.
With enough skill anyone can do anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s fair or reasonable.
Let me put it differently. What’s your win/rate ratio as pred and what is the same thing for most preds around here? Do you think for them its below 60%?
We are looking at this from different perspective. All you seem to care about is how the pred performs at the high skill levels against coordinated 4 man premades.
What I see is the fact that the FT has gotten constant nerfs, preds got constant buffs and new toys. Aside for that how much predators actually win when they hit that que. You say its not fair, not balanced… Think how fair the people getting steamrolled by the predator must feel. There was another topic around here some people making fun of some kids because they got frustrated by having PC predators walk all over them.
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But then that pulls us back into talking about player skill, and not numbers.
My problem, is purely with the numbers man.
By numbers I mean damage numbers.
I have tested damage myself in this game and I find it to be ridiculous, only because it’s a 1v4 game.
You say you feel bad for the ft players who get steam rolled.
What about the preds who get run over because the damage ft does is broken?
I’ve literally killed preds In close to a minute or less simply because of ft damage.
So how is that fair? Do you think they have fun when one wrong one move will cost them everything, but ft has back up and second chance?
An ft dies, they die because they didnt work together.
A pred dies, either cause of bugs, bull shit damage, or being new or stupid.
If need be, lower the ft damage, so it’s fair, then raise up their health if its ABSOLUTELY needed.
Theres ways to go about this in terms of balancing. But right now its not fair.
And honestly? I think the best course of action to reach a good state of balance is to make both sides stronger.
So ft can get access to a lot more gear and tech.
Like traps, ammo type, cooler weapons.
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Damage numbers… How did you do this? Predator stands there and just eat it? Leaping around constantly taking pot shoots with the plasma pistol and running to eat a pig before getting into second wind. If FT makes a mistake and 1 FT goes down, most of the time is GG.
I don’t find the damage the FT does broken when we take into account how much damage the pred can do just as well.
You killed preds in close to a minute, I assume that by yourself? Predators killed me countless times even before being able to turn around with the elder sword. I was not at full health for multiple reasons.
If the pred finds me alone and he is any good he can kill me far faster then 1 minute, like in seconds.
Predators have second wind, buffed now. When the FT loses 1 guy, its probably over.
If a FT dies it can happen for multiple reasons, not just because they didn’t work together. I can do this to, if pred dies is because he played bad (even if not new) and the FT was just better.
Lower the FT damage… When the pred can 1 shoot multiple people… BTW, this HAS happened to me with the spear throw, head shoot trough 2 people. Getting hit with 1 trough me and another guy doing massive damage (even if its not head shot) happened multiple times.
Try playing against a PC predator that uses adrenal boost (or whatever its called) that leaps around and shoots with the pistol. If he is GOOD, its a NIGHTMARE to deal with. Decrease the damage the FT does and he will walk all over people. And I am talking about 3-4 PC players on that team. No idea how super pro’s with low gfx do it, normal people (including me) that don’t do that? You should try find one of those. Its irrelevant the DPS if you can’t hit him.
You’re only going off certain people, again.
Look, you dont have to agree.
But the damage is broken given the nature of the game.
Start playing with a consistent group, or like I said, go play pred vs premades.
If pred is as op as you tho claim, and the damage is fine, you should win no problem right?
Btw the those Russians who use low graphics are not pros, or respectable. Please stop using the as an example.
Ya thats normal. Nothing wierd here.
Never claimed the pred is OP. You’re the one saying the FT is OP. Where have I claimed the Pred is OP? Certain things need balancing perhaps, like the pistol but I am not the one complaining how the 1 FT can solo the pred. No idea how you got to me saying the pred is SO OP…
Also, you’re the one focusing ONLY on a minority in this game, premade groups. Do you question how that will effect the majority and preds ques as a direct result? Probably not.
As for the russian… Does not matter if people think they are pros or respectable, its about how much they win.
Oh sure, cause lowering the graphics to easily pred isbt a bitch move, no, not at all.
Look.
You are extremely fucking annoying because your self centered ass thinks they’re right.
I’ve agreed with you on several things.
But since I’m not stupid, or blind, I cant fucking agree with the fact that the damage ft does is fine, cause its fucking not.
Win or loss rates, player skill does not matter because I am not talking about them.
From the very fucking beginning, I have told you, my only problem is the numbers, cause I know the damage is unfair and unbalanced.
I’ve been extremely reasonable with you, and I’ve seen where you’re coming from, and agreed with you on several points.
But for fucks sake, the damage ft does, with certain guns, IS broken.
You dont have to agree Xan, but it doesnt change the fact that it is unbalanced.
As for you saying I’m not thinking about how this would affect randoms. It wouldnt too much.
They would just have to work together.
But god forbid the ft has to right?
The damage, given the type of game it is, is unbalanced.
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I’ve seen quite a few guys stating preds are easy to notice at high setting because of the shadow or something. Did not test myself. Low setting makes the game look like toilet paper to me so I don’t play it like that to notice the difference. I assume its more about getting a more fluid experience then anything else.
You do understand you’re just as set in your ways to, right? I can claim you’re fucking annoying and self centered but I prefer to keep it more civil. If you find what I post annoying you can always just ignore it and move on with your day.
I am sure I can’t convince you that the damage is fine but again, my opinion is that compared to the tools the predator has and the damage the predator has its fine. If you have a different opinion fine but I don’t agree with it, more so when you’re telling me a single FT can kill a predator, something that is absurd.
Win/Loss rates matter to people playing this game and how much fun you have. If a group of people keep losing and get frustrated they quit.
Also and again, not going to agree with you that something is unbalanced considering I have yet to see a predator here claim they lose more then they win. Its damn absurd to demand nerfs for the side that loses more then they win.
Working together is not as easy as it sounds. You can lose LOS for a second and the predator is on someone and kills him before you get there and can stop it. Again, if you play with friends as a premade is one thing, go with randoms and its hard to get them to do anything. Also and again, working together does not translate into a win. I’ve had teams that WORKED together and get destroyed by the predator. Its also about skill level here and platform.
Again, I am not asking for nerfs, YOU ARE. I don’t even use the perk with the extra damage, I prefer a more bulky build.
So the damage would be okay with you if the fireteam had projectile rather than hit scan bullets?
Civil?
Dude I was being civil before but a person can only have so much patience.
To me you’re annoying as shit because instead of saying you simply disagree, you have to present your opinion as tho its fact, you write off nearly everything someone says unless they completely agree with you, and you have a more holy than tho attitude.
You don’t find it ridiculous that I can agree with several things you said, but just because I dont agree with what I know isnt right, you automatically try to shut down everything I’ve said?
More so, I’ve only been bringing up one point, and everytime, you want to bring up a bunch of other shit which has NOTHING to do with what I’m talking about.
Perfect example, its absurd that I say one ft can kill the pred?
Even tho it’s true?
It only takes one clip to kill the pred, with certain guns.
That’s my issue. That’s my problem.
It’s not absurd. See, you think not swearing hides how much of an asshole you are.
Its incredibly easy to see by your language that you just look down on people.
That’s why I snap at you.
You’ve got a pretty scummy personality.
If I had to describe it on one word, it would be narcissist.
Ive tried countless times to just bring up something about the game, and everytime all you do is talk down and try to shut down everything I’m saying cause I dont 100% blindly agree with you.
You say the damage is fine cause of what pred can do right?
His dps?
Most of the time, you cant hit multiple targets at once.
You have to focus on one person.
So, you do that, but then you have 3 others, who can all single handedly kill you, not by skill, but because of the gun they have. So then you have to switch targets.
So you can kill one, but focus on one, get fucked by 3.
Sure, I can get past this.
But again, just because I, or the other preds who can get past it, doesnt mean the damage ft can do isnt bull shit.
And I cant stress it enough, it’s only bull shit because its 1v4. When you multiply the damage, that’s when it becomes unbalanced.
But not like it matters what I say, you dont care about what I’m talking about.
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Possibly. But as time passed on, I started thinking that projectile would probably just be best for both sides.
You would be able to lead shots with automatics, which would help vs mobile preds. This is, if illfonic can implement well.
Yeah. It would make dodging at range much better. I don’t think it would change much at close range. The velocity would be the difference maker. Battlefield 4 had low velocity and gunfights were very localized but later games like Battlefield V had almost 50% more velocity and most weapons didn’t feel much different from hit scan unless you were shooting across the map.
Ya I feel snipers would be the most affected, but I also feel if they can implement it well, the gunplay will have a better, smoother feel then it does now.