Jungle Hunter with Disciplined

#81

Actually animation cancelling is an actual game breaking bug as the mechanic was supposed to burry u on the ground and kinda lock u in place while others are stunned and damaged… then u go ahead and melee…

But the scout field medic wouldnt be such an issue cause it does not allow them to run anything else… u see where im heading with this?

If people were to run metas only… they are eliminating their chances of running something that actually gives them fun and proper way of playing the game…

So they would be risking all of specs just to be able to rez someone in 1 second…

Sounds like instant win for me lol dont u think…

Cause they cant run those spotting specs and perks where it takes 9 seconds and it slows u down with each spot.

They cant run damage specializations either… all they can run is field medic.

#82

So the way i think of this is…

4 people run field medic and nobody runs anything else… i already know how to easily counter field medic and its with plasma spam lol…

And if they camp in building i can just spam leap and slam…

So they risked their team being unique just to run meta… and they think mets will save them…

So if u think about it really well u will come out with conclusion that people already found ways to counter field medic… and so will for other metas…

For me i like to not click at all… but im not fond of scout class due to low energy and bad damage reduction n stuff…

#83

Yeah, but IMHO people use such stupid stuff like Scout-FM because they have no real idea what makes sense or is practical as a Meta, which is basically the same reason for them to look for such exploits in the first place.

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#84

Your missing the point by reading too far into the example lol

#85

so do enlighten me what’s the point XD

#86

And people never will know what makes sense cause even now u dont have people running specializations or knowing how to properly play to not attract pred or even get downed by him.

I doubt they will ever know cause the game will either have constant cycle of new people or the game will get to the point where they pull the plug and u will only have the P2P servers to make private matches like in evolve.

or they can just watch tutorials or read how to play which illfonic made it possible in extra menu…

but even that will not work for them cause people are like that

#87

They designed the specializations and perks and the game as a whole to work a certian way. If you circumvent how they designed in order to change build the character a different way than intended, that is an exploit.

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#88

Ok but if you say it like that then you are also fking ur self with the double edges sword with this.

Cause people can just run 4 dutches and do massive amounts of damage cause there is no uniqueness when it comes to classes… so it makes sense to not keep them locked behind classes rather allow each class to use any spec then if u can already run the same class with 4 fireteam members.

#89

Or they can run 4 supports with field medics… for example… then where is your “game works as a whole”

so do you see my point XD

and compared that to the predator… predator is all alone… and has access to only 3 perks and 1 specializations compared to the fireteam…

#90

Oh no don’t get me wrong. You wanna cheese and run 4 Dutch tanks OR 4 FM be my guest. I have no respect for you and will play accordingly. I’d rather have that though then being forced to run a class I don’t want because someone else loaded in with the class I felt like running

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#91

The Problem for this is really simple.
Compared to other games, where you can just go to one website and easily find all information provided by the community, this game has it’s information scattered all over the Internet.
Even in this forum, it is hard to find such information about current meta builds, tips, tricks, etc. because it is managed poorly and everything is scattered.
The guides or builds are all scattered over youtube and made by streamers that you already have to know to find this stuff.

If there would be just one big portal, where you can find everything quick and easy, it would be a whole other story.
I made a concept as a clickable prototype for such a PHG portal already a year ago, which was greatly appreciated by a lot of people, but sadly I couldn’t find the right people to realize it and as I’m working as a nurse during this pandemic for roughly 60 hours per week, I also don’t have the time.

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#92

Well there’s @SkooLBoY_SkePtiK and his guide with links to my tutorial but getting this info wide spread is the problem.
Hell my tutorial vids still have less than 300 views I think and Illfonic even tweeted them. I suggested a “Help” section for the forums but I’m pretty sure it got buried before anyone saw it

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#93

Ok so where is then the issue…

Cause this is the same thing even if they enable universal specs, the only way people will think of it wrongly is… they can now combine field medics on ANY class… which is think is fine honestly cause they are still doing the same thing as before, locking up their choice.

So in both scenarios unlocked specializations or locked… they will have to lock up their choice build and play with it… and if u have 4 people running field medic scouts… that is their problem lol… i will run disciplined jungle hunter 87 and win against any meta build cause they physically can’t spot me anymore or know where i am lol… im basically a ghost as seen from the movies im technically the predator that should have been a predator since start of the game.

#94

There is a saying…

slap me once, shame on you… slap me twice also shame on you… slap me three times shame on me…

So this implies if they run meta builds and see that meta’s don’t actually win lol they will change it up… and run variety… and the balance will auto fix it self… if that’s what people are worried about.

So humans work in a way, they playtest and adapt with each match.

So this is why i say… you should keep this topic i guess copy pasted for next week or next month and see how people react or even if they will realize u can exploit the universal specializations.

I really want to see my simulation ran in real life and in real time.

#95

Again the issue isn’t whether or not class locking specializations is stupid. The issue is that specializations are class locked and working around that class lock is an exploit.

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#96

No, Humans are lazy by nature and want quick success.
The only difference between them is their mindset.
Some take the time to experiment by themselves like we do, while others just leave after the first failure.

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#97

Exactly this is why i say… keep this exploit tucked in for a bit and see if people will rebel against universal specializations or not.

From my only match i played with jungle hunter… nobody called me out for it… they didnt even notice it lol…

If you see 2 or three people even randoms like actual newbies coming in and making posts… game is way too hard people run hunter with disciplined… plz help devs…

#98

But your universal specializations are your own agenda, not ours and not Illfonics.

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#99

What if they allowed this on purpose?

I mean the way this is probably possible is they probably tested and see if they wanted to allow universal specs for preds or not… and they decided to release first locked specs… and if people like it… they will make them universal.

That’s my assumption.

If you see no harm with this… then why like remove it as soon as u find it, this is technically not that harmful unless u run zerk with ghost then yeah… but that’s only because ghost can be combined with perks + with zerks natural passive ability.

Even if u run scout with ghost… scout is deadly still with it… altho i don’t mind it as i personally don’t allow melee damage be done to me ever and i conserve my health incase they plasma me.

In that case i camp in buildings right.

#100

And if you ask me… this exploit is not that harmful… they should be fixing other shit like getting stuck on small rocks on ground and probably fix like hitboxes and other old bugs that they didnt.