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Fusion and metric ton of power is not necessary at all for AI to gain consciousness. Itâs not energy required that much. And capability and willingless are 2 separate things. One can be capable, but not willing, another can be very willing, but not capable. And fusion is still very far from us. Itâs very unlikely that it will happen in our lifetime.
So thatâs how you make a soul, huh, or something equivalent to it. Very different from Dr Frankensteinâs recipe đ I suppose there will be some sort of an identity there and I wonder what motivations it will have.
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It will eventually get regulated and controlled, just like nuclear bombs got controlled and many other stuff.
Maybe not your lifetime, but in mine definitely. Scientists recently created a sustainable fusion reaction.
Also yes a lot of power is necessary. For generation and upkeep.
It lasted only 3 seconds and got shut down. That is not sustainable. As for lifetimes, neither your nor my lifetime, but as for length, you have far shorter lifespan. And you will be very likely outlived by me, since you are dying and I am not.
In terms of AI, power is not that much necessary, since learning does not require extreme amounts of energy. Including generation and upkeep.
Agreed, but even now when itâs running wild in this partial form itâs making big waves. Itâs almost too much to handle when it comes to the future possibilities. I donât really understand it all, but people who are kinda scared of it.
It doesnât have to be a Skynet or matrix scenario, but it will have a big effect on economy and the need for so many humans. The next big outsource will be humans for AI.
Itâs not too much to handle, itâs simply just not being such a huge deal. As for humans, it wont happen, since that kind of thing would create threat that would regulate it fully. So it will prevent humans as AI outsource. It will be very easy to handle it in the future possibilities, since there are always counter measures that have been created to prevent full dependency of AI and even put AI under the control in case it goes out of hands. Scenarios that we are seeing now, are nothing more, but just identity copy, deep fakes, deep voices which is simply humans being creative with technology. But itâs not AI doing it by itself. Itâ simply certain groups of people having either fun or in some cases stealing identity, but again this is not AIâs fault, but humans abusing and weaponizing AI with their own hands.
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Youâd be surprised. Look at outsourcing to China and how it propelled theyâre economy and capabilities. Hard to regulate it now as they make so many everyday essential products. Same can happen with AI, baby steps, and then more, then thereâll be no going back as machine cost will be orders of magnitude chapter than human work.
Letâs say at some point AI will be semi conscious, but not yet a threat, like a child. And then very close to that it will learn to have secrets and to lie effectively. Once that happens it might be too late, but it could be a very blurry line to regulate.
I am looking at China and I am not surprised, since China regulates it perfectly. I donât know what your vision even interprets as ââregulatedââ or âânon regulatedââ, it seems that you cannot even comprehend videos and images that you see. That is not AI doing it, but people controling and programing them to do, itâs just like cars and other tools. Using AI as tools is not uncommon. And the AI is still controlled by humans, itâs not that it became self-aware. Itâs useful for deliveries, constructions and many other things. But that is still not AI being AI as itâs mentioned, itâs us simply developing technology to make our lives easy. And itâs not depending on AI, itâs simply depending on just regular technology. As for human work, there will always be humans working and it will not replace fully humans, since it would pretty much be downfall, so therefore it will easily be regulated and ilegalised.
As for semi-conscious. If that gets regulated, it can be reset and brought back to non conscious state. They always have counter measures in case cousciousness happens. So it will not be too late, since people already have calculations for what if scenario and indications to prevent it before it happens. So when you say ââonce that happensââ you speak like it will happen, which will not, because regulations will happen. Once again you are being too narrow in your book smart logic and under Hollywood effect. It does not work that way. And humans always develop counter measures strictly in reality. We are always very prepared for that sceanrio to not happen.
All am saying is that there a possibility that even with regulation of AI there will be that danger line where it can become âself-awareâ or interpret reality not for benefit if humans. That can be seen in this vid where it generated video of ship in a cup of coffee. Obviously itâs not there yet and the vid does not show any dangers to humanity, but this type if creative thinking can have life changing consequences if itâs given access to more important function. It is tough to say what more important functions are because we donât understand fully how AI makes decisions, just like in chess engines or Othello in this case.
As far as China, I was not commenting of China regulating itself but on USA losing control over what China can and canât achieve by outsourcing and sharing tech. Now China is major player and USA canât do much about.
It cannot happen, since as I said, counter measures are prepared for that scenario, so it cannot happen, if they instantly put it in the shutdown mode. And also that type of future is very far away and very questionable if it will ever happen for at least 200 more years. Also this type of thinking is still humans controlling it, itâs not it doing it himself on that video. AI does not make decisions, but we make the AI to make decisions. And we understand it very well. And I know about China in terms of AI, but AI is not yet danger, nor it will very likely ever be. It will be more like human case scenario where they weaponize AI, but AI being self aware can be easily regulated, if it as I said is on shutdown mode. People who are creating AI are thinking about those potential scenarios, thatâs why they are more than prepared. Thatâs why scenario of it becoming self-aware is very unlikely to happen. And if we have to be technical, Russia is better in terms of AI technology than Japan and China.
Even ISS and NASA are mass buying Russian robots for future Mars and Moon missions.
Not gonna lie this thing is actually pretty cool Iâd be mad upset if I figured out this thing killed me
Dead people cannot be mad and upset. And you cannot have fake robot, if itâs robot and this was 1 year ago.
Just cause it came out a year ago doesnât make it lame your no fun even when something cool comes out of Russia
Video that I posted was 1 day ago. They are already modernized and advanced. And danger does not need to be cool in order to be danger. Many non cool things from Russia are even more dangerous than the drone dog, like Drone Tank. And even now Drone Human.
Thatâs crazy bro
The robot dog is cool tho
Itâs not crazy, itâs fact. As shown on video.
Bro takes everything literally.