Parry Better, Not Perfect. Pred a little too tough. XP/Currency for Nuke Kills and Players quitting.

[FattBrando]

From a discussion on another topic.

@FattBrando

So I just played a match as the Berserker and decimated the team within seconds. I lined up a slam that was just perfect. I mean it was a thing of beauty. Landed right on top two of them, downing the both. Then ran around the side of a building to let my energy recharge (was running the cooling syncs perk) and as their 3rd teammate came to assist I quick claimed one and pushed her off the revive. She parried me of course, so I swapped to the net, pinned her and finished her off. Finally their last member showed up and started unloading on me with the not-SAW. I had just enough health to put him down with melee spam.

So…

I have come think think that the stun isn’t the absolute worst thing ever…still gross and needs further tweaking. I don’t think a player should be able to 1v1 melee a full health Predator. Maybe increase the stamina cost of the parry so they can only parry 2 times before being exhausted. Or 3 times and lessen the duration of the stun effect on the the Pred. It seems unfair that the one player left after my slam had to solo me, and she shouldn’t be without any options at all…that being said if her idiot teammate hadn’t been on the other side of the map they probably could have chased me off with only one claim under my belt instead of a win. The last guy to show up almost had me in 2nd wind from full health. Better teamwork would have prevailed.

While I am beginning to appreciate the health bonus, I do feel it may be just a bit much. I think maybe split the difference? The Predator needs to be a little more vulnerable to gunfire.

Lastly, playing as a scout earlier, I downed and claimed 2 players, they reinforced, and I downed and claimed another. Finally, downed a 4th but got greedy and was taken down. Activated my nuke and killed the downed player and one more in the blast. But only got credit/xp for the 3.

Pred should get xp/veritanium for nuke kills.

Players who quit matches should count as kills and award the Pred with XP/Veritanium.

Make these changes and I’m happy.

[FattBrando]

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@FattBrando

I thought Pred health was fine before the patch. I just played carefully and waited for an opening. The slam is a great way to break up a fireteam, and if you’re good with it you can even down one or two of them.

I hate the parry because the Pred should be deadly up close but vulnerable to gunfire. I think adding the stamina cost was a step in the right direction, but needs further tweaking. I think the cost should be higher.

The Predator should be deadly up close, but the fireteam should be able to keep him back with gunfire. The scout should have more damage bonuses to ranged weapons.

Pred health was fine, but if it was too low, now it’s too high. They need to split the diff.

Parry still needs to cost more stamina. The fireteam needs to rely on teamwork to stay alive, not their ability to Sekiro the Predator. This isn’t Fireteam Sekiro: Shadows Die Never. But they also should have options and shouldn’t be totally vulnerable or screwed when they lose a player.

I think a lot of the changes are great, they just need to continue to refine. Pred is definitely a little too strong, but so is Parry. Keep playing, keep giving feedback. They’ll get it eventually.

[eggowaffles123]

I like this all except the end. players who quit matches are rewarded 0xp would be best. that way ppl wont quit unless they wanna sacrifice xp and (if the pred were awarded xp regardless) then we can still get the claim animations so ppl just don’t quit to speed up gametime

[FattBrando]

No that’s what I mean. If a fireteam player quits a match the Pred should still get xp from the player as if they got a kill. Players who quit shouldn’t get s&*t.

That match I had as the Zerker^, one of the players I had downed quit before I could get the claim and I got nothing for it. That should have counted as a claim.

[eggowaffles123]

yea I agree with that then, it is super frustrating especially when u just downed a gank squad of pred hunters only to have them quit. been there many times, it needs to be addressed…

[FattBrando]

@FattBrando

Finally their last member showed up and started unloading on me with the not-SAW. I had just enough health to put him down with melee spam.

If he had parried me even once it probably would have been enough to finish me off and the fireteam would have survived.

Moral is, fireteam doesn’t need to be able to parry more than 1 or 2 times. Please increase the stamina drain.

ALSO, stamina should recover more slowly after being fully depleted.

Maybe, if stamina is fully drained, fireteam player can still parry, but it won’t stun the Pred and will only mitigate some of the damage?