Shoulder Caster OP ?

#61

it’s not overpowered in the least and it can be countered pretty easily by the following methods. As people have stated a sniper will fuck up that strategy pretty easily as will the plasma rifle since it can go through branches and will stop them from standing still and force them to relocate. While the pred is blasting at one guy the rest should punish since the pred is making themselves a massive target. and if he is wasting the perk points on dithered lens guess what there is a way to deal with that too

it only takes 3 sniper shots to take the mask rendering the strat worthless unless they are a crazy person running protection

that this really isn’t that big of a deal to warrent any crazy nerfs considering we got here because of too many nerfs and buffs being one sided that this boils down to simply the best strat at a certain point

i tend to be a bigger fan of buffs rather than nerfs

if you really wanted to stop this in a solo que situation you’d run something like these 2 loadouts

OLWF op Spotter/sniper
sniper rifle of your choice or the GOSLR/hammerhead
2nd doesn’t matter but the recon GL is a good choice for synergies
field syrretes Anti cloak grenades regular grenades or med bags and thermal decoys or UAV and anything else listed here
thick skin/Ice cold and OWLF take ICE if your going spotter take thick if your going sniper
ICE + spotter means your literally immune to thermal vision as operative this means the predator can’t easily shoot you from far distances as he can’t switch thermal on/off to see you from farther away accurately

https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/dda132575a7cddd3106512eb7480e2baeb23e3f3.jpeg

Dante field medic/fanatic: were gonna go for the build that gives you 355 hp (not joking)
field syrette med bags
OWLF thick skin body armor
guns should be a sniper rifle + any fast firing 2ndary weapon like the first SMG or the 2nd pistol
whenever you sprint you gain damage reduction remember that whenever you use the syrrete it gives you a fast regen of 100hp without that regen you have 255 hp when your sprinting literally just run as often as you can if your not shooting
it takes literally 2 full combos with the alpha sickle to kill you as a berzerker with fearless which is the fastest DPS available to the predator

the reason we are in this shape is cause Predator constantly got nerfs over the course of this games lifespan while the FT either got buffs or new equipment OH and the only 5 guns that have ever been nerfed are 1011-12, XDB-12, (2xl twice) and the 7EN also the hammerhead and spoilers: It’s still considered to be the best AR in the game and it’s twin the mercenary has the hammerheads PRE nerf stats

predator has 2 main options here
Caster/bow spam for a boring match, but have the highest chance to win as it’s the best tools in his arsenal

or

Try some of his other arsenal and get shredded in 2-8 seconds for trying something else then chased down in second wind and killed in 4 minutes just to go back to a 10 minute que.

this is just me reiterating reasons from this thread which covers this problem very well

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#62

Damn

#63

If he’s using dithered lens, good luck sniping the mask. Unless he’s using the plasma caster without cloak active, which is a mistake by the predator.

#64

if he is using it with cloak active he can actually overload whereas without cloak he can’t overload without spamming a ridiculous number of shots which at that point you can see him the other option is your guaranteed a break eventually cause he either has to regen energy or overload

albeit it was poor timing on my part as the taking the mask isn’t nessearily the thing that i’d say deals with dithered it just deals with the caster wholesale you’d actually just be running one of the classes i mentioned later

unless were going with the arguement that this particular predator just happens to be running dithered lens mod reserve then cloak costs less NRG and at that point dog he built to just sit there and do this

when i’m over here assuming predators are mostly running the same shit DMGmod+ impen/ditherd, big pouch trapper/mod reserve

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#65

After the last plasma caster buff, you can get about 3 full charge shots or more while cloaked. Plenty enough to get a kill.

#66

you do know plasma is a projectile right? so after the first one you can just run away

if this scenraio predator is taking the time to charge every shot a reasonable player isn’t getting killed by this

#67

These are not worth it. 10% is not useful.

#68

10% is literally the diffrence of one extra hit on some classes and it can make the FT FEEL like they need to heal more often therefore wasting resources

#69

Then the fireteam is using the wrong class and/or perks.

True. However, I tend to catch people in the opening between camps, and, if I’m being a try-hard, I spam the shit at the outer walls of buildings.

#70

ok then were on the same page

albeit i’m assuming most fights that people refer to take place in camps

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#71

I don’t think the damage of 120 is over powered, I just think the splash damage radius is too large. It’s very similar to the “roof slam” problem when the game released.

#72

I agree the damage delt isn’t a problem it’s just the AOE of the plasma caster wether it’s the AOE splash damage total or the radius of the explosion only one of those 2 should change but for the most part i think PC is fine

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#73

true story

#74

You’re talking shit saying weak/ low tier preds.
So trying to avoid the broken damage the ft has makes you trash?

Ok by your logic then all the ft who dont stand out in the open, together, are all trash and shitty players.

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#75

It’s got the same radius as a grenade or rocket,
It’s a. Explosion it’s not supposed to be small.

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#76

Does it ever explode in the movies? I thought the explosive radius was done more for balance reasons.

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#77

Scroll up school.
Look at the clips.

It looks like an explosion to me, which make sense cause it’s an energy projectile.
So it makes sense that it’s a blast.

At least with how it looks.
However I dont think in the movies or lore they’ve ever charged it, that being case I think the pc we have is a different type that focuses more on the boom.

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#78

From an IRL Perspective, it makes no sense. What would make actual sense, would be for the projectile to burn the shit out of whatever it touches.

To make an explosion, you need energy that is tightly packed and builds pressure before the energy is released. That’s why rockets and grenades explode. A ball of plasma would be similar to a laser or lightning.

#79

Just throwing this out there: if we’re going from the IRL perspective then there are a litany of other things we should address first 😅

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#80

True. That was my point. The AOE of the plasma caster is purely a balancing mechanic. Not a realistic mechanic.

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