A very slow predator with absolutely no stealth defies the odds.
Sigh.. This games balance.
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Look there will always be examples to prove any one other example wrong. Iām just talking long term statistical trends. I mean am I off base here? I feel like Iām not the first person to bring up those points.
Oh. I didnāt realize these stats were available to the public. Well if the trends tell a different story, then who am I to disagree.
The only time I can agree that predators need more stealth is when pc players abuse low graphics. Otherwise, illfonic already buffed the Predator by greatly reducing the sound of footsteps and making the predator unspotable when completely invisible. You can leap, crouch walk, and turn off cloak if youāre worried about sound whoring. (The Predator clicks when cloaked)
Also, leaping predators are way faster than double time scouts.
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Dude, whatever. Search the forums. Iām hardly the first person to bring any of this up. Peace out āļø
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Yeah, I know, lots of whinny predators around. Does not mean they are right.
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And the fact that you disagree doesnāt mean you are either. š¤·āāļø
I would say fts are not noticing my footsteps till im right on themā¦ which by then its to late
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If many people believe something does not make it so (Argumentum ad populum). Point is I find many predators demanding nerfs and when I start asking questions I find out they win far more then they lose (by their own admission) like 80-90% win rate. Then I am like WTF, you want 100%?
Not only that, count the number of people and topics demanding nerfs to the FT and how many ask for predator nerfs? Should we also consider the number of nerfs FT keeps getting every patch? This is as predators keep getting content, predators are on the 3rd consecutive new class with new weapons (the city hunter). Soon enough its going to be interesting how that pred que is going to look like.
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I honestly donāt entirely disagree. As Predator I win a good bit. I would simply argue that when you have two opposing teams who reached the skill ceiling for said team, the gameās mechanics definitely favor the FT. That said, the deciding factor in most matches really is skill. I would personally like to see some tweaks to both sides. š¤·āāļø
Problem is nerfing the FT effects badly the majority (casuals). You need to keep those.
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Yeah I think I would agree with that. I just think some minor tweaks to some things for both FT and Predator. Nothing crazy as far as buffs and nerfs.
This is why I push my rework at every turn. Im sick of pred matches playing out as either EZ win or im getting bullied this game.
Hence why I push stealth and lower ttk. No one sided nerf that buff this. I want an across the board rework that deals with the issues on both sides.
The issue with that one is that with this devsā¦ It will never happenā¦ At least I am not seeing it. Game launched with 3 maps and 1 game mode, after all this time we still have the same thingā¦ And you want them to rework how it works? You have more hope then I do, that is for sure.
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Eventually they wont have a choice. When new maps alone, arent enough. My rework is a lot of work for sure, but aside from maps to accomodate, and voice lines to fit said maps objectives, There is absolutely no graphical work needed for my rework really. Most of whats needed is already in game, just needs to be repurposed or retuned.
You just canāt force preds to be more stealthy.
You canāt force Fireteams to be less bully.
We are all humans. We will do whatever the hell we want. Tactics is not a developers thing. Is a mindset. The only way to manipulate (a little) that mindset is through daily/weekly challenges, which so far I havenāt seen a single one (sadly) to be from the Predator side.
Also the fact that the game lacks any form of ranking and/or leaderboard, constantly pins Preds vs FTs in ārankingā competition, instead each class against its own.
This game should have had levels for FT and Pred independent, but oh well. You can be level 150 and still be a level 0 Pred, or FT
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Except you can by not having piss poor game designā¦ Lol.
To be clear. There are ways to enforce and encourage the stealthier gameplay. Assuming preds stealth is fixed, making him squishy will force him to play to that stealth because rushing in will get him killed in most cases. Removing reinforcements will highly discourage predator hunting as you will almost certainly be killed unless the whole team is hunting. In which case preds improved stealth will make that a huge waste of time.
There is a good reason you donāt see daily/weekly for the pred side, predators will have horrible ques. They tried a predator weekly and then a day in changed it to a FT weekly since the ques where really bad for preds.
Now, nerf melee play and predator health and youāre going to forge him play ranged and more with stealth, only issue isā¦ They will not win muchā¦ Then you need to find way to balance it all over again but also force predators to not engage in a tanking damage type of thing but then they will ask for nerfs so they can do that.
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I didnt say nerf melee play. If hes gonna be weak health wise, than his melee needs to be strong enough to quickly capitalize on that.
I was referring to ways to force them to play stealth. Now if you donāt nerf melee (not the damage, make it more easy to parry him that even PS noobs can do it) they will still do it, just fail a lot more.
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