Take on the new predator specializations and perks (patch 2.19)

[Coffee2Go]

@Finessology

They should stay unique. It makes them unique to play against and gives you an idea of what to look put for rather than people playing beserker with Disciplined. gives the weaker classes a more noticeable edge.

That’s the typical way devs thinked of… but in all of movies none of the predators actually made clicking sounds… but not to go off by the movie… i guess i will have to go off by fair play really… so lets say if they stick with the current perks to give out “unique” looks i guess… useless unique looks in my eyes.

lemme point out why

1. This is very harsh P2W approach by devs, they are entering alarming dangerous play zone here, one of them is how evolve died, the devs did exactly this for the monsters in game. (This P2W approach is more silent approach cause like… they tried to balance it out to not be so noticable, but its still hidden behind paywall)

2. They are totally not making any sense for doing this cause the classes are not unique for starters… everyone can play dutch and pick to play sniper rifle or RPG…

3. This takes away almost 50% of fun from people… and for me it’s a very harsh turn off

[Coffee2Go]

@MassImpact124

I think the only thing they are missing is the PC party squad balancing and a little more definition as to what makes balancing a ‘for the moment’ configuration then this game will live on for the ages.

Fair point with which i agree with… they should have done it during beta as well

[Coffee2Go]

@SkooLBoY_SkePtiK take a read of this topic…

[SkooLBoY_SkePtiK]

Interesting. I haven’t fought a good PC team yet, but I’m going to leave crossplay ON this week and see how it goes, as predator anyway.

[Coffee2Go]

Yeah i tested all the specialization and with all perk that exist and tested out the so called “one shot metas” and my conclusion is… the specializations shouldn’t be hidden behind pay wall… and also they need to be used by every predator… and not only for one…

[Coffee2Go]

@Cadillackid take a read about my topic… think u will like it… it plans to reach out “ideal balance” that people called perfect

[MassImpact124]

The last paradigm is the balance between Platforms. Its the last and final nail in the coffin.

[Coffee2Go]

I agree… the devs should take like… best controller players… then best pc players and then test it out on them…

or just pc player vs pc players

and humans are fond of learning quick when testing and doing experiments… so it wont hurt to playtest with all of platforms

[MassImpact124]

exaclty, they can do this by matchmaking alone. but you’ll exclude parties- and there is a problem there.

[Eshtion]

@Coffee2Go

I honestly think it makes no sense to keep the specializations unique for each predator you play

Completely disagree

Preds need to be unique and provide different playstyles.

Not generic stats. Specializations are one way to do this.

@Coffee2Go

My main concern is do you devs really think that people who play predator deserve to be limited when its only one against 4

Yes.

Quantity doesn’t take value over quality in this scenario.

@Coffee2Go

Dithered lenses needs to either go back to 3 perk points or 4 perks points

Caster is the preds best weapon. This perk takes away the only downside of it.

@Coffee2Go

Trapper needs to be 2 perk points instead of 3

Trapper just needs a buff

@Coffee2Go

Ironside needs to either stay on same perk points or go to 2 perk points cause i tested it and its not that useful lol

I think it’s fine as is. FT just needs a damage nerf.

@Coffee2Go

Adrenal Boost needs to drop to 3 perk points

Adrenal is really strong. It’s good as is.

@Coffee2Go

Impenetrable needs to drop to 5 perk points or stay but the damage reduction needs to be evened out as height advantage to reduce damage from all sources… and not just the bullet… also if possible it would be dope if impenetrable can block more and more damage the further distant you are… it would be worthy of 6 perk points then.

Impenetrable is also fine. Again FT damage in general needs a nerf.

@Coffee2Go

And by re-work i mean one perk should allow u like 3 perks in one and the specialization needs to give you 2 specializations in one.

Quality over quantity in this scenario

[Eshtion]

What you got against me?

Fight me

[Coffee2Go]

@Eshtion

Completely disagree

Preds need to be unique and provide different playstyles.

Not generic stats. Specializations are one way to do this.

Again this is a harsh way people think… i would say repeat your think process once again and thinking way out of the box…

and i will name again 3 points why i think it shouldn’t be locked to be unique…

1. This is very harsh P2W approach by devs, they are entering alarming dangerous play zone here, one of them is how evolve died, the devs did exactly this for the monsters in game. (This P2W approach is more silent approach cause like… they tried to balance it out to not be so noticable, but its still hidden behind paywall)

2. They are totally not making any sense for doing this cause the classes are not unique for starters… everyone can play dutch and pick to play sniper rifle or RPG…

3. This takes away almost 50% of fun from people… and for me it’s a very harsh turn off

Oh and the perk system technically makes no sense needs entire re-work… this was my take on trying to “balance” out current perk system… but it just leads to LIMBO-LOOP of constant damage nerfs and buffs… and it makes no sense to keep doing so… and i suggest total rework xD

And impenetrable deserves to prevent damage from all sources and not just from bullets… technically height advantage is in this case “better perk” than impenetrable cause it blocks all sources and it blocks 25% of all incoming damage…

and also i think both perks need to block more and more damage the further predator is… and the closer he is it should stop at 20 and 25%

[Cadillackid]

I’ll take a look later when I get a chance

[Eshtion]

@Coffee2Go

This is very harsh P2W approach by devs

It’s only P2W if they’re straight up power creep.

We’ve had

Dutch 25

Dutch 87

Dante

Samurai

Elder

Alpha

And viking all who did not power creep any class.

We’ve had two that did.

Not to mention this is a system used in multiple other games already.

Including siege, apex, and DBD. And it works just fine.

Day one characters are still meta such as Ash and thermite from siege

Bloothhundyr and pathfinder from apex

And dbd is an unbalanced mess.

It’s all about execution.

@Coffee2Go

They are totally not making any sense for doing this cause the classes are not unique for starters…

And that needs to be fixed. Not to mention with specializations launched recon with tracker became more viable (then it already was) thanks to spotter which supported a tracking build and we’ve already seen some stuff with pred specializations like this build

@Coffee2Go

This takes away almost 50% of fun from people…

How…

How does having unique builds to each Predator ruin the fun?

[Coffee2Go]

@Eshtion

And that needs to be fixed. Not to mention with specializations launched recon with tracker became more viable (then it already was) thanks to spotter which supported a tracking build and we’ve already seen some stuff with pred specializations like this build

Yeah, well… until it gets “fixed” , i will either settle for them unlocking specialization for both fireteam and predator side… no matter which character they play, or i will also settle in if fireteam can only play with unique weapons… in this case… only one can run sniper… and one rpg…

@Eshtion

How…

How does having unique builds to each Predator ruin the fun?

It’s simple, for me all the games you mentioned i hate playing cause its locked but then again it suits it… in this case and this game concept this does not suit it, as much as you make points how other games use it… this does not suit this game, and i went trough like million scenarios in my head testing the simulations of it suiting it… but it just does not… predator is forced to be made this locked unique build character that can’t be anything else except his desired “race” he was born… or “type” he was born… technically idk what its called… i wont say its called racism… cause it probs isn’t… but who says that a berserk predator should be locked to only doing berserk stuff… its such like narrow minded take and it like ruins fun… it also brings me back to my traumas of like… if you are looking either hot u must act hot… so like… why does playing berserk force u to only take his specializations…

Its also total turn off because i would like to be running disciplined specialization on my jungle hunter build that i mainly focused on energy + stalking…

[Cadillackid]

So…I kinda agree with your recommendation on dithered but for me at least I don’t even notice the cost because my perks for builds that use it tend to be cheap.

Trapper and impenetrable I think we’re adjusted to get people away from a zerk/Viking meta build

Personally impenetrable should just be eliminated and the Preds base lined given it.

[Coffee2Go]

I personally think the impenetrable needs to be made so it blocks all source of damage but the further you are the less damage you receive in a way… the closer you are it loses value

[Noktrum]

@Coffee2Go

I honestly think it makes no sense to keep the specializations unique for each predator you play

Ok, hold on… are you suggesting to give ALL specializations to all predators?

[Coffee2Go]

Yep

[Cadillackid]

I actually would if anything like the reverse.