“Because classes represent our gender and ethnicity and therefore must be treated with equality…”
Ya no burn the entire thread :p
I’m all in on making classes unique
On one hand we don’t need exclusive items to push certain playstyles, just limited specializations and passives. If we have that then each Pred can be unique without limiting what other classes can do.
On the other hand exclusive gear would hard push classes to being unique…
That thread made me lose brain cells, fak you for showing it.
Just…how?.. why would he go so far to bring identity politics to the game for a class of character that can have different genders based on the players preferred taste? I still don’t fully grasp what the argument is there, is it racist because a scout can’t be a fully armored berserker?
See if I can be clearer with Items Exclusive to Specific Classes.
For example:
The Samurai Predator.
Along with his DLC, Arma Katana was added;
The Viking Predator.
Along with his DLC, it was added as a Weapon, the Viking Hammer.
These weapons were later made available free of charge.
This is what is wrong !.
For Soldiers.
For example:
Dante. In his DLC, his Missile Launcher Weapon has been added.
The “Dutch” 2025. In his DLC, he added his Weapon and a Knife Model with his Specific Name !. “Dutch” knife ".
These Items should be Exclusive for each Class !.
If You want to use the Missile Launcher, You would have to Play with Dante;
If You want to use the Viking Hammer, it is with the Viking Predator that You would have to Play;
And so on.
The Basic Classes are Yes 100% Customizable.
Both Soldiers and Predators.
You can choose the Skin Pattern Colors, the Mask, the type of Dreadlocks, the Primary and Secondary Weapon, the Equipment that your Predator will use, Weapon Color, Armor Color, Mask Color, Mask War Paintings, Etc.
And for Soldiers, it is no different.
But You Won’t Select the Alpha by Example, and Put it in an All Blue Skin Pattern, with a Mask Different from the One He Wears, with a Weapon Other than His Own Scythe.
Or you will select the “Dutch” 2025, and put it on with a Cowboy Hat, put on a Knife different from his own, with a Weapon other than the one He uses, with a Colorful Uniform.
the DLC’s all clearly stated that the class was exclusive, but the weapon was early access. They state this.
This all goes back to having too much stuff be paid content beyond the base game is bad for competitive balance.
And binding weapons to classes limits customization and personalization. Forcing players to avoid using classes because it won’t let them use a loadout they want. I even want the wrist launcher unbound from the city hunter.
And the base classes would no longer be 100% customizable. If only dante had the missile launcher, and I couldn’t use the missile launcher on support, that is less customization.
Turning all these DLC classes into one trick ponies is a bad idea. Valkyrie for example. People like her stats, but they don’t like the hammer. But if we go by you, its forced upon them. Taking choices away from the players isn’t a good idea. Even if its as simple as cosmetics, still not good.
See I’m the other end of the spectrum, I don’t think there is enough customization. I want to fully design my fireteam unit and my predator clan. If I could, I’d make Dutch, Dutch, and Dante Body 3, just so a generic male and female could be Body 1 and Body 2. I want to use the stats of these classes, but make them look unique. I want Jungle, City, Elder, Alpha, Samurai, Viking, and OWLF to have Body 2, and I want Valkyrie to have a Body 1.
I want to make my loadouts look however I want, and have the weapons and stats I want. I don’t want to be locked into certain looks or weapons because I bought a DLC.
This is exactly the Point that needs Change !.
Weapons and Equipment that clearly belong to a Specific Class, must be Exclusive to these Classes !.
Making these Items later accessible to the other Classes, causes the Weapon or Equipment to lose its Exclusivity.
You have to be able to Explore the Best of each Class, with every Resource It has!.
Do you see what You Wrote here ?.
“The City Hunter’s Pulse launcher.”
It is his Exclusive Equipment !.
It should not be used by other Classes.
Each could have their own Exclusive Equipment.
For You, and any other Person, to make Your Own Judgment as to what is Advantageous or Not for each Class.
For example.
The City Hunter.
He could have 3 Exclusive Equipment.
A Healing Applicator like the one in the Film (which He uses to Cauterize his Wounds), his Pulse Launcher and a Multiple Thermal Viewfinder.
That would be different from other classes!.
I’m not talking about Limiting the Customization and Personalization of Predators and Soldiers.
But separate what is from a Specific Class, from what is from a Basic Class.
But tell me:
Why do you want to use Dante’s Weapon in another Class of Soldier ?.
Does the Support Soldier, along with the other Basic Soldier Classes, no longer have Enough Weapon Options to Select ?.
My Friend, see the Absurd You are talking about !.
Technically, you want to change the cultures of the Yautja !.
Body 1 is for Males / Men.
Body 2 is for Females / Women.
Correct?.
In the Yuatja culture, Female predators do not occupy warrior roles.
There are only a few Exceptions.
You commented that the Players liked the Valkyrie Statistics, right ?.
I ask you: Have you ever seen any Male Valkyrie ?.
Why did the Players liking her so much ?.
Simple. Because she is an independent class.
With Own Statistics.
And there are differences between the Viking and her.
It is Completely Natural.
The Viking is Male, and Valkyrie is Female.
They cannot have Equal Statistics.
It is another error of this game.
Within the Classes, having the Male and Female Option as if Both were Equal.
But I repeat, it is precisely by purchasing a DLC that You will have Predators and Soldiers with Exclusive Customizations.
Again:
I don’t want to Limit Personalization and Customization.
But we have to separate what is a Specific Class, and a Basic Class !.
But why? Why make these things exclusive? It makes no sense and as I said, is bad for Competitive multiplayer.
They never lost their exclusivity, they never had it. It has always been stated as early access, getting to use it before it gets released to the none dlc hoarders.
You aren’t able to explore the class fully, because of how limited the loadout is, you only get to use it one way, no exploration.
Its not his exclusive equipment. It came out with him, and added to the public pool the next update.
Why don’t you want players to choose their loadouts? Why can’t the wrist launcher be used with other classes, with other loadouts, to add more variety to loadouts?
But we can’t make our own judgement, as you are forcing certain classes to use certain weapons. I can’t determine the most advantageous weapons for the samurai, since I have to use the Katana.
Its a health kit by another name, and the other views aren’t useful in this game, and having the devs make a bunch of new visions that do nothing, and are only used by a single dlc class is a waste of resources.
But you are talking about limiting the customization and personalization of the “specific classes”
Well I don’t want to use dante’s weapon on any class, including dante’s, but that’s not the point of this question.
Theoretically, I’d want to use the missile launcher on the scout, seeing as he has the highest movement speed, so I can keep up with the pred, and when he stops to heal, I can be there and blast him with a rocket. I’d want to use it on the support, seeing as he has the highest health, so I can take a shot while aiming, and return fire with more damage that he gave. I’d want to use it with the recon, seeing as he has the best mud, so I can fire upon the pred without him knowing exactly where it came from. That last point also works for Dante 2025.
Sure they have weapons, but that can have more, and there is no real reason to keep weapons hidden in certain classes, other than you want it that way. There’s no one stopping you from doing that yourself, no need to take options away from other people.
You haven’t seen how absurd you are.
You are picking and choosing with comics and other expanded lore you want.
There are comics that have females in warrior roles, that aren’t the exception. Furthermore, while all that is expanded universe lore, this game has been given the stamp of canon by Fox. Not sure if that changed under disney’s Fox, but they haven’t said no. So if there are females in warrior roles here, that supersedes the contradicting expanded universe lore.
My problems with valkyrie extend beyond this, that they made a female norse class because people were asking for a female viking, because people wanted to use the viking stats, but as a female, and they gave us a new class.
And now you aren’t making sense more than ususal. The players like valkyrie because she has her own statistics. Why can’t we use those same statistics, but on a male? Why can’t we use those same statistics without the hammer?
Now we are getting into sexism. Since you love the expanded lore so much, you must know of the comics with the females being bigger and stronger than the males, right?
So shouldn’t the stats on those two be switched around? But you are applying human hormones to an alien race, when even humans can have females keep up with males.
But that exactly what you are saying. Having things exclusive means that you are limiting personalization and customization.
The specific classes are hamstrung into specific loadouts, and the basic classes will never have access to anything in the specific class, ergo less customization.
My Friend, Can’t you see that we are paying for a DLC where we only have the Predator Class as a differentiator ?.
We don’t need to keep changing the Weapons and Equipment of these Specific Classes. What we need is for them to be Different from these Basic Classes !.
When I say that we can better explore a specific class, I say it this way:
For example:
We have a Samurai Predator.
-He has an Exclusive Skin Pattern, with the Pattern and some Variations;
-He has Standard Armor Variations and some Variations;
-They have Standard Mask Variations and some Variations;
He have a Primary Weapon and a Secondary Weapon Exclusive to this Class;
He have 3 Exclusive Equipment for this Class;
This is what makes the class unique. This makes DLC Payment Worthy.
Now, if Everything that comes with this Class, becomes available for free, why the DLC !?
This Early Access Must End; E Stop the allowing access to Exclusive Classes for Basic Classes.
Instead of using Exclusive Weapons from other Classes, New Weapons must be made for these Basic Classes.
Tell me which Variation is Useful for a Specific Class ?.
Variation of Weapons !.
The Advantages Do not apply to what I am debating.
Nor the Specifications.
Do not confuse things!.
From what I can see, you are more concerned with the specifications of each class.
And how each weapon corresponds best to that specification.
But, to increase competitiveness, the right thing would be to really hunt with what each class has and what each soldier has !.
We will never please everyone.
But I don’t think it’s OK to pay for a DLC to only have Early Access to things that will later be free.
Worse, they will not even be Exclusive of each Class !.
But we have to be based somewhere !.
You are wanting the Samurai, the Alpha, the Elder, the City Hunter, to have Female Versions !.
And that we also having versions of Women Based on Statistics from “Dutch” 2025, “Dutch” 87, and the OWLF Agent.
The Class of Valkyrie came about by chance because we did not have a Specific Class of a Female Predator.
And they did it Right !.
Separating her from the Viking.
I know that Male Predators are Stronger than Female Predators.
And for humans, it is no different.
I’m not trying to get into this Gender Issue. But it is a Reality.
Males cannot have the same statistics as females.
If the basic classes do not have access to what is exclusive to specific classes, where is the problem?
Just make more weapons for these classes or a similar weapon.
But the Specific Classes, need to be Differentiated from the Basic Classes my Friend !.
Please Understand This !.
