Ted talk about Pre-Mades

#42

@OldKingHamlet, is PHG being brought to PS5?

Sorry to be a pest.

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#43

Dude you have to balance around teams. That’s with literally any game ever you have to balance around the top or else you’ll break your game. Duh.

#44

If you balance around the too the game will be broken

#45

If there is a ps5 port are you going to charge us a upgrade fee or will the game be free @OldKingHamlet

You forgot a major issue

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#46

It maybe, still to be determined.

Good question but he may not be able to answer. Will saves be transferable if not is what I’m curious about, I’d buy it again if they didn’t meet a sales goal.

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#47

I think so.

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#48

If this is a sony title then a ps5 port needs to be free for all current owners. Square Enix has already seen this to be a issue and have set a standard that needs to be implicated across all gameing companies. Rock star is the major one. They have made ppl buy Gta V twice and are talking about it being a day one Ps5 game. They are super greedy and gaming companies need to value their customers.

Side note: will someone plz invite a time machine already we need to go back in time and kill this idea of capitalism before it gets off the ground That way money is not the root of all evil

#49

Aye can u summarize the argument for me real quick so I can get in here? Lol

#50

Pre mades should stop being the biggest blame for balance issues since they dont make up a majority of the player bases.

#51

Gotcha.

So I disagree with that. I think its a part of the heavy imbalance of the game. But it goes both ways. Both need to be addressed together because they both make a difference

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#52

I run randoms and am frequently the only one running bane.

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#53

Yes but Pre-mades require skill to beat not meta tactics and balanced game play. One can not predict that a Pre-made is going to steam roll a pred if the Pred is a higher skilled player the Pre-mades will have just as much of an issue with the Pred as if they were randoms. The game is more a skill based game then a balanced based game. Sure some parts if the game are more one sided than others.

cough cough players hiding in spots preds can not reach or successfully attack with out being melted.
Not talking backwater under map either more like derailed the garage doors or under the bridge on Overgrowth.

Pre-mades are not disrupting the balance they are just the darkside of it while randoms are the lightside and pred is the Grey

#54

This is a lack of skill and knowledge more than anything

#55

I guess. But I frequently see gearhead and self revive

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#56

I try to inform the new players after we win a random match and they ask why i have more than dbl their pred damage and its because of the bane.

#57

Pre-mades are a symptom not a root issue. It’s just that pre-mades provide an advantage via communication & you typically know what to expect of everyone else in the party. Don’t have to worry about some awful random with no situational awareness mudding up instead of putting damage on the pred preventing you from getting a SW on the pred player.

The actual issue is that the skill ceiling for FT is insanely low point and click bullshit. Meaning pre-mades 9 times out of 10 are 4 people playing optimally that have already reached said low skill ceiling so they win 99.9% of games unless someone is sleeping. It’s worse than the issue SWF’s present on DBD because information is a big deal in DBD, whereas PH:G is just damage, damage, damage all of you need to shoot at the pred for a few seconds with the strongest guns in the game while 1 person hits the interact button on objectives nothing else matters.

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#58

Communication isn’t as important as situational awareness imo

#59

Finally. Someone that gets it

#60

And just as maybe 30% of fireteams are pre made, 10% of predators are actually good enough to beat them.

If your argument is that pre mades should not be balanced around then its super backwards for you to use the even less common good predator as a counter point for it.

#61

Yeah but with communication you can tell said player who is vt hunting instead of playing obj or lookout. That pred is coming and they usually stop what they are doing and re join said group.