The elephant in the room. How exploits have ruined this game

#616

Also this is the reason why i want that fake RNG in game that is not based off of luck… mainly skill to come in play, the whole root problem is how like gameplay feels and like idk before it felt like people were starting from the bottom to like 100% each match being clue less and sloppy.

And now its like they are starting at 90% and there is no room for improvements really cause like there never was room for improvement cause the game takes no skill… like entire gameplay mechanics are like this basic boring thing, half of stuff is missing to make the predator a predator…

Idk it might just be my complex brain but oh well… thats the way i see it.

#617

Yes
That tracking is fun

#618

What? I would rather arrows be destroyable, too.

I know I know, Fireteam OP, predator weak, but destroying the disk is definitely not an exploit. The devs designed it that way.
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#619

The smart disk still shit though
Slow and turn radius sucks
Also if you don’t mind me asking why do you hate the bow so much

#620

Albeit there is a bug rn that gives the pred back his smart disc even if destroyed but you are right

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#621

He dislikes the bow because it’s rapid fire dmg is too high in his opinion and probably

Which this is facts btw

If FM didn’t exist every down against a predator with a bow would result in a kill as you actually can’t pick someone up faster than a pres turns someone into a pincushion and it’s unlikely ft has the firepower from a distance to make the pred stop

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What type of rework would you like for the Yautja Bow (Pred Main, Archer)?
#622

AvP2010 had a lot of fakeouts and animation cancels but its more of a fighting game with an actual melee system.

The host advantage was silly but that game was a product of its time before ongoing balance patches were a thing. You either got gud and learned the animation cancels & combatted the caster bunnyhop or you died. Complaining about it got you nowhere.

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#623

True that shit was a 3d arena fighter honestly

#624

People actually thought alien was the weakest class because pred had the better pounce and obviously all the one shot kills, but alien had the highest skill ceiling if you could jump to any wall in the middle of the fight and end up behind people & aliens wall tail was death.
Marines that never missed their grenades and could spin around and parry were good too but they had a lot of noobtrap weapons.

That game had a really high skill ceiling compared to the games we get now.
Most people were just bad at that game and never realized you could cancel a heavy attack.

#625

Even if it was bare bones it felt like tracking, imagine being able to see broken branches and permanent footprints in the ground (not thermal, regular vision)

#626

For boring yes. But making the game easy on Pred? No you can objectify that statement and that’s just wrong

But why does it need to be RNG? Ignoring accidental balance issues that’ll make it lick based, it doesn’t do anything besides make it appear in a slightly new location. Making it player dependent instead of rng would add a lot more dynamic content that is actively engaged with. Us you it’s easier to avoid balance issues. Making one path FT sided and another path Predator sided is a lot easier than making two paths equally strong.

#627

Avp 2010 was also hacked into oblivion online. There are still active players on steam

#628

Because it basically makes revives impossible without Field Medic if the predator knows what they’re doing.

It’s not like I hate the bow. I use the bow probably 75% of the time. It just clearly out classes the other weapons, and it just makes playing anybody but premades a little cheesy.

When I play Fireteam, I’m not always squaded up. Usually, it’s just me and one other player, but if I solo queue and I have to deal with a predator that just takes people out with the bow, you can’t do much but roll your eyes, watch every one die, and hope that you actually get randomly paired with players that have a high enough skill level to not go down in the first place.

Basically, if base revive times were less than 4 seconds, I wouldn’t really care so much about the current DPS of the bow. It would still be a little high, but not nearly as bad as it is now.

Also, I don’t like the netgun any less.

Field Medic and the Sawz50 are too strong as well in my opinion.

#630

The Fireteam just needs to shot the Predator and make him go second wind before he can finish the guy that is down with the bow. 3 good fireteam players are more than enough to do that to the Predator as fast as the medic can revive. Field Medic is never necessary.

#631

I played a game earlier and there were two dante field medics, I lost count of how many full plasma charges I hit them with , you just couldn’t drop them . Even a few spear throws into the mix . Spotting all your traps , complete horse shit

#632

more than 30m away they literally can’t they don’t have the DPS unless were talking bout scouts here

i know we like to talk about how memey FT damage is but there damage is only crazy at less than 20m in terms of how fast they dish out dmg at above 30m it slows almost rto a reasonable degree even if all 3 FT members had a SAWZ the downed guy would die before the predator is in 2nd wind assuming to get that guy downed it didn’t take 50% of his hp
an oldie but a goodie


and i believe the SAWZ does like 252 dmg per shot hunter has 1250 hp 10% bullet reduction 25% armor at low hp possibly an additional 20% with impen yeah the downed guy is just dead at above 30m w/o field medic

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#633

If the guy that is down is 30m away from the others than the field medic won’t reach him in time anyway. Neither medic or the FT might save him in time.

#634

no in this i’m assuming the FM isn’t 30m away it’s literally in camp for the ft the predator is however 30m away but if you have a FM he is going to get up and everything is fine

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#635

If we are talking about a competitive team of the same skilled players, FM is never necessary. You can take enough supplies even without support.

After Illfonic added this spec in the game, it totally broke the balance. We never take him in privates, cause it makes much easier to play as ft, and IMHO using him is not fair.

Before adding specs, team had to use their brains more often, for now, you can just take 2 FM and you gonna do fine, even if you gonna make some serious mistakes.

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#636

Ooooo that sounds nice

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