Look, when I’m on a hunt for big game, but happen to stumble across a …idk… a squirrel, I will let it go, but if it bites I will crush it, not because it poses a challenge now, no! Still no challenge what so ever - but because I’m the apex pred around. Stupid example, I know, but I strongly believe that this is what Predator writers had in mind - a ruthless killer, not a warrior. Almost like a sadistic serial killer that has this thing for armed men rather than defenceless women.
Yautja are not honorable - change my mind
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IDK… I’m not the slimmest of all XDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Lmaoao but I do agree preds remind me of sydistic killer but I’m huge lore mannnn so :0
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But you are human, you have humanity within you and human value systems.
You, are not Yautja.Thus your values do not apply to an alien hunter. You have to view it from within THEIR culture, not ours.
Honor, means different things to different people, just as it would to different societies. Hell, just look at Japan’s view on honor, when samurai would walk around testing how sharp their swords were on commoners just because they could, but were still considered HONORABLE.
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So we can all safely agree that inserting a plasma bolt from 100m in someone’s skull while cloaked is an honourable behaviour for Yautja XD?
Yep. Exactly.
It’s all contextual based on the society viewing it. To a Yautja, clearly that behavior is perfectly normalized on a hunt and clearly within what is allowed by their governing systems. Either that or every yautja we’ve seen on screen is a bad blood… and I doubt that’s the case. [the super preds, probably, and likely Upgrade/whatever you want to call him from The Predator, is likely bad blood.]
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Thank you! Exactly my point!
We - predator fans added this virtue to the lore - honour. It was never meant to be there in the first place and the first two movies clearly show that to us. Wheatear Yautja consider themselves honourable ort not, or even understand what honour is - we will never know. Lets leave it that way. For us humans they are interplanetary hunters that differs very little from sadistic serial killers
Not quite because we know what their honor system is, and it’s detailed out to us in the AVP novels that follow Machiko Naguchi, because she learns their ways, their language, and their “honor”
Like I said, if you want a humans take, read those novels. That’s as canon an explination as you’ll get.
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Hell that what scare me. Humanization of the yautja race…like The predator
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True source material is Predator and Predator 2 - simply because both films were written by ppl who first created this concept - they created Yautja species. And there is absolutley NOTHING in those films that happens, some one shouts - HONOUR, and I’m unable to correct that and explain that what they witnesed was hunting law at best.
AVP novels and comic books by DC are epic but fun fiction - changing the nature of original predator drastically. Do you know that original novel refers to Yutja as Hish? Funny thing, those guys were absolute bad bloods judging by today’s fan base standards…
We do not mention that title here… or anywhere XD
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You are referring to predator midnight with the hush who are yautja ancestor who make sex. Fart and monkey jokes about human and jerk of their kill gland for mot murder theirs kind out of rage.
YES THAT NOVEL IS SHIT
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Which original novel? The novelization of Predator 1, that treats the creature entirely differently? Hell, the ALIEN novelizations do that all the time, including adding a venom to the xeno’s tail that paralizes.
And no, true source material is: Preadtor, Predator 2, AVP, AVP:R, Predators, and The Predator technically, as well as any supplemental material deemed canon [such as P:HG currently]
Hish have been essentially canonized as a secondary sub race of Yautja as well. Also what about the prometheus comics, where AVP factors in with Ahab? As far as I’m aware AVP:Fire and Stone counts as canon to the Prometheus universe as well.
So no, Predator 1 and 2 are NOT the end all be all you want them to be, no matter how many ways you try to spin it, you have to take everything as a whole if you’re going to analyze the species. The MINIMUM lockdown you can do for the discussion is lock it down to “only what appears on screen” Which still counts AVP, and AVPR, as well as Predators and The Predator, like it or not, that’s just how it works man.
Sure you can headcanon whatever the fuck you want, but when you’re having a discussion, you have to take all material into consideration.
Yes those ones XD
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Fair enough XDDDD
AVP movies are a different franchise in a different universe, not connected to two original predator movies. Also not connected to Alien franchise but that’s a different story. Predators is a wanaby remake of first movie (and bluntly ignores second movie existence) so dose not count quz its not canon. Please never mention The Predator to me again ;-)
Predator and Predator 2 are the end, sorry to brake it down that way but its true. Rest is fan fiction
Yeah, but its not, that’s just what you choose to acknowledge. If your trying to find an echo chamber for your own personal preference of Predator Lore and Culture, then maybe don’t pose it as a discussion especially if your not actually open to changing your view on the subject. As far as the extended lore is concerned you can’t discount it just because it doesn’t jive with what was made for the purpose of selling movie tickets initially. When Stan Winston (RIP) designed The Predator I don’t think anyone expected it to evolve into one of the biggest Sci-Fi franchises ever, he wanted to make a badass scary alien to beat up Arny, which they did, but as with ANYTHING the more popular it becomes the more people want to know about it hence the mythos evolves and changes to suit the demand. Unfortunately this does not always work out for the better (The Predator) but sometimes it is actually really good, Great even (AVP by the Perry’s) everyone here can probably agree that the shining examples of GOOD Predator movies ended with part 2 but the others still exist whether you like them or not…
But I am! You ppl are just doing a very poor job! Over and over I read “but in AVP…” or “He fought hand to hand with Dutch”… STOP! I just told you Predator and Predator 2 only please and fighting h2h with 2.5m tall reptillina alien is not fair at all - its sadistick at best.
Yautja are a race of interplanetery serial killers with a hunting law. They are not honourable warriors as most of fanbase wants to view them. My myind is still not changed my freind, not because I don’t want to change it, simply becasue your arguments proved nothing yet - try again and try harder!
Human standards simply do not define those of other races. Perhaps the savage nature of those aliens better reflects the cold and merciless nature of the universe? Or maybe not. We really are a clueless species beyond our grasp of mathematics and a few other sciences.
Also, perhaps they know something we do not. Something they could not explain to us. Like it would be for us to explain to a fly that it is insignificant or to a rat that it is vermin. Maybe we are not fit to be interplanetary, and the predators are some sort of antibody. So they forge their culture in a way that helps them cope with the violence of it. Like Klingons I guess, they turn to honor for comfort …in the cold deadland of space
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That is beautifully said my friend… still fan fiction so no, I’m not convinced there is ANY honour to be found there at all XDDDDDD
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