Just wanted to see what the community consensus is. Please read the whole post before making a decision.
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Also! I cant edit the post again, but please reply why you do/dont like the reworks if you have the chance.
Be brief though, I anticipate I will get a large number of replies.
I like most of it, besides the match length idea, the thermal loadout scan, FT class stamina change.
A thereâs a little few more but theyâre skippable.
Keep the match at 15 mins but. change to 25 and call a 2nd chopper if the Predator destroys the other. Otherwise the match will be interminable in some situations, think about the trolls exploiting this.
Scanning the load out will just tell the Predator âhey attack this dude first and donât worry laterâ and complete the match in the first encounter.
Thanks for the reply!
The stamina change would be for both predator and fireteam, Its to try and balance the speed of the classes. (Also needed to trade something for the gear change, because if scout had the most gear/stamina/energy it would be dumb.) Plus the beefier characters like zerk and support are meant to get up close, and the stamina will help solidify that.
I can see where you are going with the match length point. I have a few things I have in the guide that somewhat counter this.
However I can understand that these arent perfect, and truth be told the only way to counter it might also be to set it so that when only one FT member is alive, the first helicopter is forcibly called for extraction? But that would create more exploits possibly so its difficult.
You are right, I think scanning the full loadout might be a bit much. Perhaps it doesnt tell perks/gear, as then pred wont be able to single out the person carrying all the meds/ammo. Perhaps it only showing the class/weapons? I think that would be fine as you could technically figure that one out just by eyeballing it.
Maybe this balance could be a another game mode, for real fans that want to play for really good experience as FT or Pred and not deathmatch as it is nowâŚLazy Câs true survival/hunt modeđđ
Bruh honestly it would be interesting if both were in gsme and we got to see where the population mostly fluttered to
while i would certainly accept your rework as a seperate game mode i stop agreeing with you on some things which iâll try to explain why starting with my philosophy when i look at balance
first everything should be a give and take or a method to counterplay something as an example you can counter the smart disc by destroying it you can counter reinforce by placing traps on it ahead of time etcâŚ
some may not be direct gameplay ie you can counter mudding for the fireteam with a perk
balance should be approached for the highest level of play with the idea of making the most amount of playstyles as possible viable the lowest level of play is only balanced for to ensure there isnât a mechanic that obliterates that level of play (like at the moment i would say slam probably should have itâs dmg reduced)
where is stop agreeing with you is when we start to change some of the fundemental things of the game such as gear points without changing gear costs as an example from both sides
field syrettes are a mandatory piece of gear for everyone on FT by changing the supports gear points to 5 this class nearly unviable while i suppose with his hp difference having just a field syrette might not be that bad assuming his perk points are also unchanged but when you could just play all assaults and do a simaler job if not better due to their inherent dmg increase and getting to carry more gear having more effective hp
that might be an issue
and for the predator this change is tenfold we have a mandatory piece of gear called the medkit and the beartrap thatâs 5 points for each these are the single most powerful tools we have when we only have 4 choices the other 2 can be destroyed or ignored if the FT take a single perk which one of every team should be running at higher levels of play helll currently as the game stands now i would argue for the predator medkits should cost nothing to carry on a class or at least 1 cause of how mandatory it is
by changing gear points but not gear costs you would make berzerker unviable in the same way the scout is pretty unviable right now there is no reason to run scout right now as the hunter is just better with long jump perk anyone running the scout currently is only running it to challenge themselves
for the most part this is the only thing i disagree with you on aside from probably the stealth kill dmg reduction as at a higher level this would devolve into run through buildings/ duck and slide around stuff until itâs over so we have the greenlight to light him up assuming the buff is 50% or just use the good guns and kill him during the animation cause the dmg reduction is only 25% or whatever unless the buff is extraordinarily good (75%+) which at that point it shouldnât be in the game in the first place
To be fair kame, as far as gear goes, I have not touched numbers at all, and I dont plan to. That one is gonna have to be up to the devs to figure out if they implement everything else. I just want to help them lay the foundation.
Predator gear right now is lacking, no doubt about that. However By increasing berzerker stamina to the most, berzerker will be able to bob and weave and jump around much more. more mobility means more time he can keep up the pressure with melee and feel somewhat secure. As for the scout, you are right scout is the least viable right now, hence why we give him all of the gear points as he would benefit most from having gear. Of course he trades his stamina for this, but the faster classes dont also need to be the most stamina viable classes.
Stealth kills wont really work too well if they can be punished hard, especially considering what they require to initiate. I have a few ideas to fine tune them which I will add soon.
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Hell yea! (Literally)
Ironically half my post is created based off of other peoples ideas. I just snaked them and put them in my guide, though if I was asked which is mine and which isnt at this point I wouldnt remember.
Yep, nice work u have done there. But stealth kills⌠idk, I said it once already-there are gonna be some exploits about that, definitely.
I have some ideas to help make it a little less cheese.
In fact let me add them rn from my phone if I can
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Added fireteam must be standing still for 2 seconds to initiate stealth kill. Predator cannot initiate stealth kill for 5 seconds after a leap
They need to have something to protect them during the assassinatiom. But idk what else
I see where you r going to. But even with your additions it wont be possible to get so close, FT will hear u in any case. IDK it is a nice idea, but u need to rethink it again on how to improve that thing
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