Predators are weak

[Coffee2Go]

If you take it in numbers… only thing that would make worth of 60/40 would be actual health ration on pred vs fireteam… sure the current fireteam health is fine i love it when i can charge my full blast and they are bloody and stuff… but i also love not being almost at half of my hp if i try to down someone with plasma

And for me predator right now feels like its generally even when it comes to fireteams… maybe a buff on perks would be good option rather than buffing preds again… just buff perks that gives overall better stats for pred then… sounds good… but then again I will still feel like an NPC that has alien tech and climbs tree’s…cause the pred feels limited due to its given game mechanics

[YUPPERS]

I either decimate a ft. Or it goes all the way to helo vs pc premades. Watch your second wind meter. If you like melee you have to take the second wind perk otherwise its 5min till its good to go. Also with second wind perk /prolly best perk to have/ you can quick claim a lot more.

Ex/ down range/ impenetrable/ secondwind cooldown… i usually take stamina perk.

Melee perk is like 6 extra dmg with wrst blades. But elder is 190 full combo without owlwolf training…
I cant teach people how to play predator but mastering the plasma cannon will save you headaches

[SoBadsOGad]

If you buff a predator, players on PS4 will receive a zero win rate. Do you think?

[WhiteKala78]

[KameofWar]

yes predators are in fact too weak atm due to dmg output of the FT guns it doesn’t make sense why there are 4 people when there are guns in this game that kill in 3-4 seconds of sustained fire that would imply it’s possible for predator to die in a single second against a FT who see’s him jump in or just bumps into him

i could explain more in depth than this but i would need to find the post i made a while back and qoute it here so if i bother to find it i’ll post it or if enough people bug me for it
pred needs buffs or top tier FT guns need nerfs nvm i found it wasn’t that hard to find

[KameofWar]

@KameofWar

OK as far as i’m concerned only one person ever has complained about target iso and everyone says he is wrong
spotting is probably an issue but all that needs is a internal CD shared by all FT that lasts 5 seconds longer than the spot lasts

where i and many others are more concerned with a numbers issue or a “meta” issue
currently predator doesn’t have enough tools/mechanics to warrent the fireteam having superior numbers
if a fireteam becomes aware of the superior equipments/loadouts and is either on comms or just good at fps collectively (which they are starting to in the current patch of 1.09 i see more and more FT taking the right guns and classes just not the right perks)

predator cannot beat them under any circumstance he may kill some of them but they will kill him or xtract which is a loss

there are a handful of guns in the game that kill pred within 6 seconds of sustained fire and 2 that kill in 3.3 seconds there are 4 dudes the best snipers destroy the mask in 2-3 shots there are 4 dudes
in the time it takes for pred to aim at the fireteam if they see him he takes 40% of his hp or loses his mask
it is currently possible as the predator to die in 1 second FT also randomly gets critical hits (yes i’m serious this is a thing the discord has confirmed) where the SAWZ for example can do 30% of a hunters hp in one bullet and take off your mask in one bullet if he is lucky what the actual fuck

the fireteam classes currently have no reason to select any of them that aren’t support or assault or dutch due to not restricting equipment
because of this they have enough hp and firepower to render melee completely unviable they don’t even have to parry if they don’t want to

the fireteam could have 48+ heals in a game… they can reinforce 2 fucking times in a game(this is probably a bug) i’m not even talking about syringes here

and we know there gonna nerf slam next patch cause (they did) so pred won’t have a viable option to get them out of buildings that won’t kill him

predator also has fewer viable perks due to being force to select dmg+ or dmg- perks on every single build in most builds you have to pick a perk that help you move faster or help your NRG bar as your last choice
most of his gear is worthless when one of the medkits are mandatory i’m aware that currently bear trap is probably to strong
pred only has 3 viable weapons while i think the fireteam has 11 anyway the bow net and stick
stick has been nerfed in every single patch cause the devs don’t know why people are using it
the other 2 melee weapons don’t have enough dmg/accurate tracking/2ndary use to warrent using them plus the combi stick is the 2nd most powerful ranged weapon in the game now cause they nerfed caster

the smart disc could be viable but because it’s flight controls can be difficult and the disc itself is very buggy and fireteam can destroy it out of the air or just run faster than the disc it’s bad

one could argue in a reasonable fashion some of the predator classes are unviable due to speed/hp differences due to how powerful the fireteam is that’s a problem

i could go on but i’ll stop here yes i’m fucking biased cause i know a broken balance when i see one just by looking at numbers and the more i play FT the more i wonder how the fuck do FT ever lose

How to be Good as Fire Team

I’ll just leave this here if this post looks familiar that’s because it is if i’m posting it as a reply to you it’s cause i think your ill informed it’s literally all you need to know to be good at fireteam and literally stomp any pred you run into ok SO first Scar, LMG, AK, the first AR, and Hammerhead, vector the last SMG and the 2XL you should never use shotguns as they do less dps than the 2 smg’s i’ve mentioned use extended mag on all of them each of these weapons can down the zerker pred…

[TyphonThor]

Just hunted down a 'zerker when it ran away to heal… Found it, by sound, in a tree. Popped its 2nd Wind and chased it across half of Backwater and found it again, by sound once more, when it had just healed from 2nd wind and killed it with a few shots… Then I disarmed the bomb and proceeded to win the game.

And this was against a PC player, not some ps4 noob. And yeh, 'zerker is kinda trash. But still… And I am far from a great FT player, I am decent at shooters even though I dont play alot of em.

[YUPPERS]

They already have zero vs me

[YUPPERS]

You wont chase a good hunter/scout or elder… they have more stamina and if they jump on cliff to heal… i doubt youll get them in time. Always jump up never jump down the map. Exact reason i dont play zerk

[TyphonThor]

Only if it is unaccessable… Scout, yeh, could never chase one down. Just chased down a Hunter though. It’s entirely possible if you have a build made for chasing them down, Double Time on Recon or Scout. I had the Hunter on the run the entire match, 5.8k damage on it. And yeh, lost it the first time I popped its 2nd wind, just found it again when it was finished healing.

[TyphonThor]

My point here is overall. Predators are squishy AF. Stealth is generally weak, the cloak is easy to see and all the clicketies give the pred away easy to anyone wearing a headset.

The number of Scout players I have seen can be counted on one hand. And they usually have to run away all the time cause they cant take 5 hits from a Hammerhead.
FT weapons do ALOT of dmg in decent hands, and there is little you as a Pred can do to mitigate that. Because vs good FT players, you will be spotted and you will get shot.

[YUPPERS]

If you watch my pred vids which are vs pc fts. I show how to handle them. I’ve lost games as predator as well. I beat more premades than lost… killed by ft by premades maybe 3 times since apr.

[YUPPERS]

The disc is good so you dont have to give position away. Im really good with it

[YUPPERS]

If your at half hp vs pc its time to get a boar

[PanzerKraken]

The guns do not kill in 3-4 seconds, the math has been figured out and demonstrated multiple times of how powerful the guns are in this game. From a full health to a 2nd wind the fasted gun is the minigun and the machine gun (SAW) at point blank range without missing a single shot which is 4.5 seconds. This requires point blank and not missing a single shot with these guns btw. Damage decreases on all weapons the further away you are from them so this number just goes up. The regular weapons like assault rifles and SMGs take at least 7 seconds, against at point blank and not missing a single shot.

This is essentially emptying two mags into a pred at point blank without missing to get these results to simply 2nd wind the predator.

So no the math doesn’t work out that they magically can take out a predator in 1 second, even if it was standing still and everyone point blanked him with machien gun fire, not ignoring the 2nd wind, as well as perks which also can offset this even more.

Again this is unrealistic scenarios as typically if a predator is being point blanked and the FT is not missing, the predator is doing something very wrong, and these numbers all nearly triple in time it takes to kill at just around 40-50ft away, where hitting with every shot becomes even harder.

Pred players keep using the bogus damage numbers in the unlikely scenario where no one misses and is firing at point blank range and not including perks, being able to move, cloak.

I’ve seen predators melt in seconds yea, because they play bad.

[YUPPERS]

Ive seen 3 ft members coordinated melt preds from over 300m… its coordinated fts not doing objectives… had a ft chase me only to get trapped and killed. Senarios of chasing at timer run out… lol

[KameofWar]

they literally do please educate yourself

All weapon dmg stats updated

we got attachments this time

[Drakos]

You would be wrong here, sorry. The tests that you speak of were done without the extended mag being used. So please go back and check it out, because you are just plain wrong.

[Jaeger486]

PS4 players should turn off cross play. Let the PC gamers eat themselves.

[Jaeger486]

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